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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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I guess you feel nothing inside if abstinent...... or am I reading it too literal?
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NickM ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 27 May 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 328 |
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Can we get back to sailing now?
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Oinks ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 24 Oct 14 Location: Bandol Online Status: Offline Posts: 267 |
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It's a bit dark around here
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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It has never been illegal to be short, never been seen as an aberration to be corrected, unless that was what the rack was for? Being a bit short and hearing jokes can be a touch wearing, just like tall people being asked about the weather up there, but really doesn't compare to being put in prision.
And yes, when I was a teen, I wanted to be a fireman, but was too short to meet London regulations. I suspect if I'd really wanted to do it, though, I'd have looked further and discovered other fire services were more relaxed about such things. As are the cops these days, I believe. |
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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For most folk, under the age of 50 it's never been illegal to not be heterosexual.
And anyway what does it matter? Seriously does anybody ever walk into a room and even think about the sexuality of its contents, seriously when has it ever occurred to you? It is positive discrimination these days, the era of gay bashing has long gone. Sailing? Homophobic? No, it isn't. Media driven nonesense |
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Chris 249 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2041 |
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That may not be a good post on a thread about bigotry. Google for prevalence of homophobia by countries and we see no evidence for your beliefs about Aus. See for example where Australia is rated to have (marginally) less discrimination than the UK. From a study about discrimination in sport; "The study found that homophobia was very
common in each of the countries surveyed in the
study. However, some countries did slightly better
than others. In order to identify any major difference
between countries, we have ranked each country
from most accepting to the least accepting based
on five equal measures that combine to create an
‘inclusion score.’
Inclusion Score
Each country could receive a total of 500 points
1. Canada 148/500
2. Australia 122/500
3. New Zealand 120/500
4. United Kingdom 107/500
5. Ireland 106/500
6. United States 84/500". You may also find it relevant to look at the relative proportion of openly LGBTI politicians, the dates on which they came out, and what places have openly gay heads of government. It is also over the top to ignore the huge difference in "social conservatism" among the 60 million people in South Africa. I've seen what could be seen as homophobia on Australian and South African offshore yachts. Whether that is an accurate indication of homophobia in the sport, the discipline, the social strata or the wider society is a complex question that includes factors like the way different groups of people express themselves, the differing social groups engaged in different disciplines, yada yada yada. To draw any inference from a small sample is to engage in the same sort of stereotyping that LGBTI people have suffered. I don't mean to make this a thread about nationalism, but in a thread about bias and bigotry it seems wrong to let this sort of stuff go unexamined. It may show how deeply entrenched various biases can be, and also how hidden bias can be just as (or more) entrenched and strong as open bias. Edited by Chris 249 - 28 Oct 16 at 11:01pm |
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420 |
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Nice IGRF, good post
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zippyRN ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 437 |
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resists the temptation to elucidate on the benefits of the forum to certain people having abstained ... you are a bigot of the first order GRF the fact you refer to Sexuality and Gender Identity as a Lifestyle choice indicates that you more than ignoramus and in fact are a de Facto and de Jure bigot some people may compare GRF to a part of the anatomy , he has neither the warmth or the depth to be either of the most common comparators ... Edited by zippyRN - 29 Oct 16 at 12:20am |
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zippyRN ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 437 |
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out of sight and out of mind , to bigots like GRF not having to face the fact that their internalised bigotry is not the reality of the world or what wider society accepts as within the realms of normal ... |
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zippyRN ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 437 |
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I may be mistaken but doesn;t GRF hold a flag role with a club ... i wonder what the club and other committee members would make of his statements ....
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