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Paramedic ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 27 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 929 |
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So are they trying to say that a type approved trailer - identical in every way really to what we've been using for the last 20 years - is invisible unless it's fitted with the extension arms? If anything the lights are more visible if attached to the boat as they are 1) Higher and 2) more likely to sit at the end of the boat rather than several inches inside. How do they know the age of the trailer?
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Do Different ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 12 Location: North Online Status: Offline Posts: 1312 |
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Sadly the Euro rules do not appear to be about functionality but about the ability to have a unit that can be tested as a whole in compliance with the trailer regs. on the Continent.
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Cirrus ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Oct 15 Location: UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 590 |
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There is no attempt to 'outlaw' trailers produced before the 'improved' regulations came in - They will remain 'legal'.
However I'm sure the suitability of the 'new' regulations will be tested in a court of law at some point. Lengthy 'floating' bars will break at some point, even if they dont cause other avoidable accidents first, and eventually somebody is going to be hit by the resulting debris .. and so legal process at some point seems inevitable. 'Approved type' status does imply an improvement to general safety does it not ? And when somebody eventually claims the exact opposite what should happen ? A suitable qualified engineering expert witness will inevitably be called by one party or another. To put it simply many would quite enjoy themselves outlining the design considerations that SHOULD have been incorporated into any 'approved' trailer standards or design. This is not exactly advanced stuff ... Fancy defending the new status quo at that point anybody ? Dinghy trailing could/should have been excluded or treated in a different manner in a 'general catch-all' move for more comprehensive trailer regulations. The lash-up we now face is simply an engineering joke ... more cost + less safe = poor deal for all. |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Trouble is its easy enough to think of ways that boat trailers could be constructed to match the regs without the bars. They'd be far heavier, more expensive, far less convenient and generally a PITA, but they'd meet the regs. So be careful what you wish for. |
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Paramedic ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 27 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 929 |
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I think i'll just keep an older trailer for the foreseeable.
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PeteM ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Oct 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 22 |
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Thanks for the variety of input - as JimC says - "be careful what you wish for". I can't go back to an 'old' trailer so I'll live with the new one but not use the arms and just hope that no clown tries to inspect my boat whilst I'm trailing it. I might take a picture of what it looks like with the gubbins and if I have to go to court or insurance produce the picture and say in my defence "it may be legal - but it's a lemon!!" They'll still lock me up or refuse to pay - but hey ho!! Thanks again
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laser193713 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 13 May 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 889 |
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You could buy my old trailer
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Cirrus ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Oct 15 Location: UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 590 |
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Nobody is wishing for much here or expects change anytime soon ... common sense has pushed off and been replaced by 'tick-box' regulation where a dyfunctional bureacracy has decided that 'process' is more important that safety let alone appropriate functionality..... Oh and yes - it will even cost you punters more to comply.
![]() You might not be bothered, think it does not matter, but your insurer or 'the other party' might just see the ££ signs and it all ends up in court. I'm like the rest of us here with a decent trailer base - ie 'pre' I will stay with me as long as I drag a boat around and about. It will be repaired as needed, maintained and cosseted - it WILL last a lifetime ! What could have been wished for is that 'our' represtatives, at the right time, had argued for part-exemption and/or a revised and more specific regulation ... as it related 'to towing small boats'. Probably expecting all far too much I guess ... Type approval - YES - can't be against that really. But FFS somebody do your homework first. Many of the 'improved' products out there now are very far from being that ..... Edited by Cirrus - 20 Oct 16 at 9:13pm |
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zippyRN ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 437 |
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1. There are roads policing Officers who are also Vehicle Examiners 2. DVSA (VOSAas was) can stop anyone at any time and failing to stop for a uniformedDVSA enforcement Officer or Marked Enforcement Vehicle is an Offence equivalent to failing to stop for a Constable. The DVSA have been taking an interest in Horseboxes and motorsport transporters |
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zippyRN ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 437 |
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So are they trying to say that a type approved trailer - identical in every way really to what we've been using for the last 20 years - is invisible unless it's fitted with the extension arms? If anything the lights are more visible if attached to the boat as they are 1) Higher and 2) more likely to sit at the end of the boat rather than several inches inside. How do they know the age of the trailer? [/QUOTE]
where are the side markers on a 'traditional' trailer height of lights in an interesting one this is very much a case of people need to be cafeful what they wish for , especially given the habit the UK parliament has of gold plating stuff from EUrope , if you think Brexit is the answer. |
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