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    Posted: 17 Oct 16 at 10:22pm
Kites - freestyle, windsurfing - slalom and waves, dinghies - course racing.... singlehanded men and women (Aero sounds as  good a suggestion as any) double traditional (470 or bring back the FD?) skiff (49er and 49erfx) cat (mixed Nacra seems as good as any) and a three handed keelboat. Proper courses, it doesn't matter what you do you are not going toy engage the general public but that shouldn't be a primary driver, the Olympics should be about individual endeavour and not corporate moneymaking.
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Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

the Olympics should be about individual endeavour and not corporate moneymaking.

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Individual endeavour not corporate money making. Sadly, the athletes (on the whole) are the only ones who remember that. Even ex athletes (Seb Coe, Jacques Rogge) seem to forget.
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And back in the real world, which events are going to be bumped/merged to make room for 2 kite medals?

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Originally posted by GarethT

And back in the real world, which events are going to be bumped/merged to make room for 2 kite medals?

I'm not sure at all that this is even on the agenda.  As I said, WS are not looking to bump classes with the upcoming review, but instead make a simple adjustment to address the medal equality issue.  The collective class associations have also done a cracking job of pointing out that it doesn't matter what classes are in use (for the TV watching public) if the coverage is as poor as was seen from Rio.
I get the feeling that A) Kite surfing as a sport does not have the maturity of organisation yet to present itself properly and ii) if it does become included, why would it be at the expense of sailing medals?  Surfing is included at Tokyo, but I don't believe it's been at the expense of a canoeing discipline, surely it's nearest related sport.  Kite surfing doesn't have a 'sail', or a 'hull'.
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Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

the Olympics should be about individual endeavour and not corporate moneymaking.

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Not naive enough to believe it is still true but once upon a time......


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Originally posted by GarethT

And back in the real world, which events are going to be bumped/merged to make room for 2 kite medals?

I'm not sure at all that this is even on the agenda.  As I said, WS are not looking to bump classes with the upcoming review, but instead make a simple adjustment to address the medal equality issue.  The collective class associations have also done a cracking job of pointing out that it doesn't matter what classes are in use (for the TV watching public) if the coverage is as poor as was seen from Rio.
I get the feeling that A) Kite surfing as a sport does not have the maturity of organisation yet to present itself properly and ii) if it does become included, why would it be at the expense of sailing medals?  Surfing is included at Tokyo, but I don't believe it's been at the expense of a canoeing discipline, surely it's nearest related sport.  Kite surfing doesn't have a 'sail', or a 'hull'.


Did you not follow what nearly happened to RS:x?

IOC and WS have been taken in by the IKA propaganda and see kiting as the cost effective sex appeal that will keep the youth excited. Only 8 women at this years worlds, but there's none so blind as those that won't see.

You can keep telling yourself the Finn is safe if it helps you sleep, and the blazer brigade may well protect it, but someone is going to get f****d over.

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Surely the best most exciting boat to cover both female and male at the Olympics (and get people talking) has to iMoth. Going to anything else is just a step backward and boring to watch. As for a team boat - surely it should be a foiling cat of some description.

Olympic sailing has bad press and needs to engage with the wider public or it may as well be scrapped from the games.
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Why do you even need two man boats at the Games? It's not Push the Boat Out day at the local club*. Cream rises and the best fleet racers will win, whether that's in a Musto, a Motha Finn or a 49er.

I would like to see relay racing, time trials, elimination races (like in the omnibus where the boat/bike at the back drops out at the end of the lap) and rule 42 abolished.

* I know good crews are skilled athletes, but it is not a human right to go to the Olympics.

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...you need a team boat because not all sailing is done in dinghies either solo or duo! The Olympics needs to be representative to the other 60 odd percent of the sailing world which requires crews!!!
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