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    Posted: 03 Oct 16 at 9:29am
Travelling very much depends on the class.

Over the various years I sailed Lasers I travelled once with it and that was not to a Laser Open but to a local inter club regatta.

When I had a Blaze and with the D-Zero I have travelled far more. My travelling over the last 2 years with the D-Zero outweighs all the travelling I have done previously added together.

The testament to the D-Zero fleet (in my eyes) is the fact that my local club (a small gravel pit) hosted an open for the class and we had plenty of travellers despite a dire forecast. Some from the south cost and some from north yorks.
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Sarge- I'm guessing the main difference for you guys is that it's something you choose to do as family, I wouldn't let a poor forecast stop my family and I doing the things we plan to do either.  We're skiing/snowboarding twice this year.... there's as much a risk of a white-out as there is of being skunked by the wind on a sailing weekend.   Other than a cursory glance at the forecast the day before to check whether it's worth packing a powder board or an extra layer or two, it certainly won't change our plans to go if the snow reports are lame.   

I wonder what the split really is between those whom sailing is an individual sport rather than a family sport/activity?  For me, I simply wouldn't give up time with my family to spend it in a car going somewhere with a dodgy forecast that might mean no sailing.... that really is a waste of my time and unnecessary complication.  So whilst the wind guru effect gets a slating, it has also saved me from those awkward conversations when you come from a weekend away where you barely sailed.

I could take them with me, but on the odd occasion I have done, my wife always feels she'd rather have stayed at home doing something with the kids and friends than sit around a steamy, smelly wet bar somewhere miles from what she describes as 'civilisation'.    I understand fully- and pretty much have the same feelings sat around various stable yards with their dirty coffee cups and boring, no seriously boring, horsey talk.  I go when the kids are involved, but if it's just something she's doing, then I tend to do something else with the kids instead.   


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Originally posted by turnturtle

Sarge- I'm guessing the main difference for you guys is that it's something you choose to do as family, I wouldn't let a poor forecast stop my family and I doing the things we plan to do either.  We're skiing/snowboarding twice this year.... there's as much a risk of a white-out as there is of being skunked by the wind on a sailing weekend.   Other than a cursory glance at the forecast the day before to check whether it's worth packing a powder board or an extra layer or two, it certainly won't change our plans to go if the snow reports are lame.  
 


Whereas I have cancelled a ski holiday when the snow reports were terrible. That wasn't a family trip, which perhaps confirms your point. However in general most people can't cancel a ski trip without losing a lot of money. As it happened on that occasion it didn't cost me to cancel.


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Originally posted by blueboy

Originally posted by turnturtle

Sarge- I'm guessing the main difference for you guys is that it's something you choose to do as family, I wouldn't let a poor forecast stop my family and I doing the things we plan to do either.  We're skiing/snowboarding twice this year.... there's as much a risk of a white-out as there is of being skunked by the wind on a sailing weekend.   Other than a cursory glance at the forecast the day before to check whether it's worth packing a powder board or an extra layer or two, it certainly won't change our plans to go if the snow reports are lame.  
 


Whereas I have cancelled a ski holiday when the snow reports were terrible. That wasn't a family trip, which perhaps confirms your point. However in general most people can't cancel a ski trip without losing a lot of money. As it happened on that occasion it didn't cost me to cancel.

indeed - it does confirm.  I have a third trip with mates planned for mid-Jan.  If the snow reports are awful, which is highly unlikely I hope, we will roll the flight bookings into EasyJet credit (admin fee loss only) and we won't firm up the accommodation.  There may be a few other costs which I haven't though about, but in the main, we'd cancel / postpone rather than just have a 4 day bender in mountain bars.   

 I guess you find other things to do if it's family or couple time without the sense of frustration.... and then a change of scene can enough to make it fun, even if the primary activity doesn't materialise.


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Throwing a theory into this, NOT, a judgement I add.

Comparisons with multiple skiing trips prompt me to ask a question of the often quoted reasons for not travelling, not enough spare time/money.

Could it be that more spare time/money than in past times has given the opportunity to pursue multiple interests resulting in a dilution of commitment to any one particular activity.

I draw a light hearted analogy to cash rich celebrities having multiple relationships/marriages compared to the average Joe or Josephine.

"Breaking up due to challenging lifestyles" could possibly read,  breaking up because we can afford to, when change and choice is easy where is the reason to stick at something?
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Originally posted by Do Different

Could it be that more spare time/money than in past times has given the opportunity to pursue multiple interests resulting in a dilution of commitment to any one particular activity.


Free time at weekends I guess.... but almost certainly dilution when it comes to booked days off for holidays that might otherwise be Monday and Friday travel days for sailing events. The latter bit re celebs is a little off base though as the more recent adventures into the mountains and snow come about from finding something active that we all enjoy together. Cycling is the other one- growing more and more as my kids get older.

I need to a 3 day weekend ;-)
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I don't think people have more spare time. Rather the opposite. Most of the sailing demographic is working longer hours than any time in the last few decades and when they aren't working, social trends mean parents are spending increasing time on what is seen as parenting duties.
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Originally posted by blueboy

I don't think people have more spare time. Rather the opposite. Most of the sailing demographic is working longer hours than any time in the last few decades and when they aren't working, social trends mean parents are spending increasing time on what is seen as parenting duties.

Luckily for some of us parent duties involve sailing.
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Originally posted by jeffers

 

Luckily for some of us parent duties involve sailing.

yep - it's bit different for those whom sailing has to fit in to that gawd-awful noughties neologism.... "me time".
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Originally posted by turnturtle

Originally posted by jeffers

 

Luckily for some of us parent duties involve sailing.

yep - it's bit different for those whom sailing has to fit in to that gawd-awful noughties neologism.... "me time".

I class it as me time, what more could i want than to spend time doing something I love with some people I love...even if one of them is a bit bossy!
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