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    Posted: 29 Sep 16 at 1:44pm
So is musical monogamy, I'm also putting a Gypsy Jazz band together :)
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M25 GRF  ? 

A modern luxury me laddie ... was not even there 40 years ago (even if chaos and delays while traversing Kent already was....).

I suppose yet another 'good old days' non-realistic romantic memory of  'the open roads' and a pint of warm beer for 1/6 etc ...    I bet yours was a pint of  'brown and bitter' as well - was very popular in some parts of the county I'm told ... LOL 


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When I was in my 20s I thought nothing of driving 300 mles in a weekend for any reason.
Not so keen now I'm older.
I think the dinghy demographic is generally older which may be the problem.
Most of us are no longer young wannabes who think we can be as good as the top guys, we just do what we think we'll enjoy.

Cars are better generally but how many 19 year olds can afford to insure a car that will pull a double trailer like mine would?
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I believe in the boom time of dinghy racing in the 60's and 70's, and in a more chaste society the success of some classes that enjoyed competitive male female combinations thrived with overnight away open meetings ... in a more open minded times these fringe benefits may be no longer so important to the traveller.  It is ironic that the same generation is now more concerned about which clubs welcome dogs!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote bustinben Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Sep 16 at 4:07pm
Originally posted by RS400atC

When I was in my 20s I thought nothing of driving 300 mles in a weekend for any reason.
Not so keen now I'm older.
I think the dinghy demographic is generally older which may be the problem.
Most of us are no longer young wannabes who think we can be as good as the top guys, we just do what we think we'll enjoy.

Cars are better generally but how many 19 year olds can afford to insure a car that will pull a double trailer like mine would?

No is the answer  - I had to give up sailing until I was making good money after uni!
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Originally posted by bustinben

 

No is the answer  - I had to give up sailing until I was making good money after uni!

same here - the old boy alumni stuff kept me afloat for a couple of seasons still team racing and drinking lots, but the Monday mornings were hell compared to dossing at Uni!  Then I managed to scrape enough together for a half decent Laser.... did 6 years with it until I got distracted with other options.  

Christ knows how today's kids do it - their level of debt is astonishing compared to when I went through the system.  
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Post Options Post Options   Quote RS400atC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Sep 16 at 7:58pm
When I left uni, I made myself broke by buying a house. I had some cheap old wrecks of dinghies but also got into crewing yachts and keelboats.I think if I'd taken my first 505 to an open I'd have been laughed at, if I could have found the entry fee. I remember one year 505 insurance was more than my car insurance!
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In answer to Sam's earlier question: I sail on a pond, but miss sailing on the sea which I grew up on, so I travel to sea events. Even better if they are summer sea regattas as part of a holiday.

Doing different stuff is good too. My quirkiest race this year was a "village regatta" near Falmouth which was round the cans both up river and in down open water. The very mixed handicap fleet included anything from RS400s to Solos with various 20-30 foot cruisers and even a Mirror 16.
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The point about age is relevant. I still feel, and am made to feel like one of the young kids at my home club and I'm 40 next year!!!! The boom time was the 5 years after uni. Good salary, decent car, RS fleet in its prime with events every fortnight. I put almost 100k miles on the car just going to sailing events. It was basically a 5 year extension of uni sailing p**s ups.

When I look at the scene today, the 20-25yr olds with reasonable jobs have enough cash to play the game but the social scene has dissapeared as the bulk of us have aged and settled down for a quieter life. With no one organising any social sailing that is attractive to the youngsters and given they don't want to organise anything themselves it's not a big surprise.

Meanwhile the rest of us will mainly sail at our home clubs with a few opens during the year where a good night is measured by how many types of boutique ale we sampled.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote bustinben Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Sep 16 at 10:54am
Perhaps the problem has nothing to do with the sport and all to do with this:

I'm pretty sure it's proportionally worse for people in their 20's and in their late teens as well!




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