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Do Different ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 12 Location: North Online Status: Offline Posts: 1312 |
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Absolutely agree Mr Jim.
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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I think it quite probable that the every dog has its day aspect of handicap racing is part of its appeal, but as, to me, the real aim of club racing should be that as many folk as possible have a fun days sailing, I don't see that as a problem.
To me amateur sports clubs should be there to serve people as they are, not to try and guide them into what some authority thinks they ought to be. That, in my day at least, was the role of School sport. |
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Do Different ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 12 Location: North Online Status: Offline Posts: 1312 |
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http://www.welshharpsailingclub.org/results/laser_sat_summer.htm
http://www.welshharpsailingclub.org/results/sat_summer16_a.htm Please forgive my completely random selection of results but that looks a lot of DNQs there for the series. North London so I'm guessing hardly short of population to go at. |
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bustinben ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 15 Oct 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 288 |
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I hear what you're saying, but it only takes one example to disprove the rule, and that is the healthy membership and racing that goes on at the welsh harp. Perhaps people left to their own devices will destroy class racing and subsequently participation, but if you make them all sail the same class everything runs along quite happily? The way I see the issue is that people want to "win" and in class racing, you generally can't. If you let people go and buy another boat that might let them "win more" even if that's only on the water and not on handicap, or at the very least gives them the excuse that it was the handicaps fault they didn't win then some of them will go and do that. You can also solve the problem with a little bit of effort in the organisation and have different competitions running within the class racing for people of different standards. I'm a firm believer that quality of racing is what matters, not "quality" or "speed" of boat. |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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We have a fishing club. Generates income, means people are around during the week. But we have to put up with the rubbish they leave behind and the occasional obnoxious one.
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Not universally true. My club leases the fishing rights for our Thames Water reservoir and prohibit fishing.
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zippyRN ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 437 |
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interestingly where sailing clubs have become the master lesee for a water they don;t seek to exclude others ... comared to some of the fishing 'clubs' ...
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RS400atC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 04 Dec 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3011 |
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The reason inland water is expensive is often that sailing has to compete with trout fishing, which generates serious money. Maybe sport just exists to use up all our spare money? If all boats were half the price, I'd buy a more expenssive one.... |
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3401 |
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I'm just about to change clubs form one on a water board reservoir to one on a 'flash'. The former don't allow dogs on site, or even on the footpaths surrounding the lake. If my non-sailing wife is to spend an afternoon watching me sail she will only do so if she can bring the dog :)
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zippyRN ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 437 |
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Big inland clubs are often on reservoirs and the water companies being (ex)public sector love their rules and regs , compared tothe attitude taken by the aggegate companies who are quite happy to turn over the vast majority of responsibilities for management of what is their 'waste' ...
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