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Sam.Spoons 
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 Topic: Tiller GripPosted: 27 Sep 16 at 5:36pm |
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Clearly the 'old fashioned' panhandle grip is faster
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lionel rigby
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Posted: 27 Sep 16 at 5:00pm |
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Tiller grips?? Have a look at this video and see what you think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJFdx0HAo6Y
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 24 Sep 16 at 8:35am |
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Now I like that, "Dagger Grip" and "Sword Grip"
 much more manly and macho......
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Paramedic
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Posted: 24 Sep 16 at 8:29am |
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Twin wire boat and a dagger grip is a recipe for much swimming.
Hold it like you would a sword and sheet across you body. There is no earthly way you'll be able to dagger grip without poking your crews eye out if the extension is anywhere near long enough. Dagger grip is fine once your sitting out in a hiking dinghy, and is my preference. When i'm sitting in I probably use whichever grip is convenient at the time. It's a bit clumsy sheeting in and out with the old school frying pan style grip, but most of the ageing rockstars from the 70's and 80's seem to manage ok with it.
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piglet
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Posted: 23 Sep 16 at 12:03pm |
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It is a bit of a learned skill, I have definitely got better at doing other stuff with my tiller hand whilst not wiggling the tiller.
Let's not forget that when it's light and we are sat in we should be weight steering more than stick steering. |
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Neptune
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Posted: 23 Sep 16 at 10:37am |
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Normally if you lack feel on a dagger grip it's because you are not far enough outboard, the extension being infront of you creates less angle to the tiller.
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 23 Sep 16 at 9:24am |
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That's the only advantage of an across the chest tiller extension position but then I struggle with the lack of feel and control the inefficient angle of the extension causes........ Perhaps I should go back to transom sheeting :(
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Phil_1193
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Posted: 23 Sep 16 at 6:45am |
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In the Phantom with a centre main sheet and no cleat its best to hold the tiller across the chest then the thumb on the tiler hand can hold the sheet as you sheet in and move your other hand down the rope, as opposed to using your teeth.
Also means you can hold the mainsheet in the tiler hand when you need to adjust kicker, forestay, out haul, cunningham, lowers and pulling centre board up/ down, with the other hand!!! |
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zippyRN
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Posted: 22 Sep 16 at 11:12pm |
Senior Instructor means nothing in terms of ability it just means you can be a course leader/ director / be put forward as a prinicipal instructor ( iirc there's also something about needing a Senior instructor present if there are a certain amount of students 'on site' at any one )
Instructors teach up to level 3 as was ( in the old G4 scheme) Advanced Instructors teach the old level 5 / instructor pre-entry assessment Racing Instructors teach the old level 4 / red/white ./ blue racing badges |
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Rupert
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Posted: 22 Sep 16 at 9:56pm |
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On my DI course, on my various endorsements and even on my SI course I've been told I hold my tiller extension wrong, mainly by people who I could happily beat in a race. So long as I know how to teach where to hold the tiller when starting out, to make life easy for the student and allow sails to be sheeted properly, if they then find a way that suits them better as they improve, then I'm happy with that.
I'm running a race training course this weekend. If I see tillers being held in such a way that it is slowing people down, I shall suggest changes. Otherwise, I really don't care. |
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