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    Posted: 22 Jun 16 at 4:29pm
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Isn't it just because all the hooray henry city boys have had their pay cheques cut?
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Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by Riv

They look like so many other skiffs

How many other skiff classes are there?

But it does interest me that their period of greatest popularity was when they were, to my way of thinking, a rules restricted design disaster that had headed off down a very peculiar development blind alley. It might just demonstrate the power of advertising of course, but it is a very interesting phenomenon.

Musto skiff seems to be attracting the kind of person who might have teamed up to buy a 14 25 years ago?
Then there are 49ers for those with high aspirations and RS800s for those wanting something a bit more accessible.
And the B14 has a steady following.

I suspect the peaks in many boats are linked to the ease with which some people can remortgage and 'find' a five figure sum of cash.

This is a very 'UK' view, it's an international class. Some UK people will want to take part or not depending on what's going on in the rest of the world.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote iiiiticki Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jun 16 at 9:04am
Did they not have a display of 14's through the ages at the Dingy Show a few years back? The trouble with dinghy racing is that it is not really a spectator sport. we can ooo and ahhh at F1 and enjoy them even though we will never drive one. With 14's only those stalwarts sailing them will enjoy the experience. It is a lot of money to spend with no one watching. I did have connections with a cold molded penultimate a few years back, the best built boat I ever saw....but it came for free!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote JimC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jun 16 at 11:16pm
Originally posted by Riv

They look like so many other skiffs

How many other skiff classes are there?

But it does interest me that their period of greatest popularity was when they were, to my way of thinking, a rules restricted design disaster that had headed off down a very peculiar development blind alley. It might just demonstrate the power of advertising of course, but it is a very interesting phenomenon.
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i can't afford to run a Ferrari, doubtless I don't have the skill to get one round a track in a 'stig beating' time..... doesn't mean I don't want one, or I would not buy one finances allowing 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Riv Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jun 16 at 10:34pm
I've never sailed one but remember looking at beautiful examples of woodworking at various dinghy shows, they were always distinctive and had a very strong brand image.

Since merging with 14ft skiffs they are now just that....14ft skiffs and really of very little interest.

They look like so many other skiffs and require the same sort of dedication and skill. As  David yacht says above, great if you can spend the time. However I expect they will now slowly disappear unless the class decides to do something different and distinctive to revitalise the brand.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote davidyacht Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jun 16 at 12:24pm
I have always been of the opinion that 14's are for sailors who can afford to sail yachts but prefer the excitement of high performance dinghies.  

I owned 4 in the post twin trapeze era and I am sorry to see the numbers drop ... I dropped out when it was clear that success was driven by much more time on the water than I had, I suspect that this is even more the case.

At that time, though expensive, it was not prohibitively so, provided you followed development rather than led it.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote NickM Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jun 16 at 8:06pm
It also depends on the class. Modern FRP Solos are competitive for well over 5 years but guys at the top of the fleet (granted, many of them pro sailors) get a new boat every year which ensures a good supply of nearly new (and well-tuned) second hand boats. But then they are a load cheaper than and i14.
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Ok, I get that and you are right.
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