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    Posted: 15 Jun 16 at 5:15pm
No, but he 16% of you trade is with the U.K., but 55% of our exports are to the EU, trade negotiations are going to be on the metaphorical lines of "bend over and wait there. When I get round to you, it's going to hurt you a lot more than it hurts me" 

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Originally posted by Presuming Ed

No, but he 16% of you trade is with the U.K., but 55% of our exports are to the EU, trade negotiations are going to be on the metaphorical lines of "bend over and wait there. When I get round to you, it's going to hurt you a lot more than it hurts me" 

highly doubt any of it will really affect product trading that greatly- sure services, especially folks pushing numbers around financial systems to benefit a corporate elite, might have some uncertainty, but no doubt they'll find creative ways to make those numbers appear bigger to those with the vested interests in due course.... 

besides worst case scenario of mutual tariffs at WTO rates on consumer products and luxuries of around 4% is less than the recent swings in gains and losses on currency one the past 5 years.... and those of us in manufacturing industries both sides of the channel, seem to be able ride that out as best we can through good relationships and strong supply chain management.    
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The question I was asked by a Brexit pollster,
"If the EU decides to go for a common language and it wasn't English, what could you do to stop it ?"
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Originally posted by 423zero

The question I was asked by a Brexit pollster,
"If the EU decides to go for a common language and it wasn't English, what could you do to stop it ?"

talk more loudly... we're british.  LOL
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With intelligent people on both sides of the argument, my view is that there must be pro's and cons either way. Whilst there will always be winners and losers, the overall state of the nation will remain largely unchanged whatever the outcome.

Therefore I shall leave it to others to decide and whinge whatever the outcome when utopia fails to materialise.
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I don't think in is utopia now. The world is a complex place.  I just think the baseless promises of leave are bollox. We're going to end up like Norway, paying more, accepting more migrants and with less influence than we have now. Sigh.
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Originally posted by Peaky

With intelligent people on both sides of the argument, my view is that there must be pro's and cons either way. Whilst there will always be winners and losers, the overall state of the nation will remain largely unchanged whatever the outcome.

Therefore I shall leave it to others to decide and whinge whatever the outcome when utopia fails to materialise.


This is exactly how I think. Maybe a Naval Arch sensibility / pragmatism?
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Originally posted by Presuming Ed

I don't think in is utopia now. The world is a complex place.  I just think the baseless promises of leave are bollox. We're going to end up like Norway, paying more, accepting more migrants and with less influence than we have now. Sigh.


But we won't have the 850 Billion dollar sovereign wealth fund that makes Norway stack up and be a nice place to live. As long as you are getting paid like a Norwegian.
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Posts: 641 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Presuming Ed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jun 16 at 10:55pm
Exactly. 

But if we could just paint the map pink again, life would be perfect!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jun 16 at 11:07pm
Originally posted by Daniel Holman


Originally posted by Peaky

With intelligent people on both sides of the argument, my view is that there must be pro's and cons either way. Whilst there will always be winners and losers, the overall state of the nation will remain largely unchanged whatever the outcome.

Therefore I shall leave it to others to decide and whinge whatever the outcome when utopia fails to materialise.
This is exactly how I think. Maybe a Naval Arch sensibility / pragmatism?

Or cynicism and scepticism rolled into one?
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