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Oinks ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 24 Oct 14 Location: Bandol Online Status: Offline Posts: 267 |
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A guy at our club was struck by lightning a good few years ago now whilst sailing his Laser. The way I heard it, the lightning first struck an electricity pylon and routed from there to his mast. It blew a hole in the bottom of his boat and chunks of gelcoat along with various fittings flew off the boat. I think he suffered burns to his hands (probably from the tiller),and his hearing was badly affected for a few weeks but he was otherwise ok.
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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In as much as it was wet all over and I watchet the blue flashes as they crackled up my arms then down my legs. |
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blueboy ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 27 Aug 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 512 |
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Years ago we were out as a thunderstorm rolled down Lake Bala. It was very obviously coming our way. We retired but the race continued. One boat was hit and iirc a hole was punched in their hull. The crew was left with a tale to tell but unhurt. I thought then and I think now that the race ought to have been abandoned.
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420 |
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I think we need a Boffin to pass judgement on this one
![]() Anecdotes are all well and good, but not with millions of volts of electricity, this level of power makes it's own path to ground, preferably not through sailing kid's. Their is a video on youtube of a dinghy being struck by lightning.
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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If I'm running a session, it is straight off the water, if necessary getting the kids onto a powerboat and capsizing the dinghies, if it is really close. Not done that, but have stopped sessions.
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piglet ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 04 Jan 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 514 |
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Leaving training sessions aside, shouldn't race participation be a matter of RRS4, ie. the sailor himself makes his own risk assessment thus removing those decisions from the RO, who is usually an unpaid volunteer.
We all make our own decision to race in any given wind strength/sea state, lightning is just weather and we all understand weather. However if I were RO I may abandon if I was concerned for the wellbeing of my fellow volunteers on the water providing rescue cover. |
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blueboy ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 27 Aug 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 512 |
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No. Those days are long gone. See the 24 hour postponement of a Fastnet start for the definitive nail in the RRS4 coffin. At my club if acting as RO I have to fill in and file cheerful risk assessment forms before I can hoist any class flags and I imagine most clubs are the same. If they are not they need to join the 21st century. Edited by blueboy - 14 Jun 16 at 7:31am |
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Paramedic ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 27 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 929 |
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At the risk of taking this off on a tangent none of the 5 clubs i'm associated with do. Theres tick boxes on the recording sheet for safety cover and weather but no risk assessment - i suspect most members would refuse or be reluctant to do duties under those conditions, and thats what RRS4 is there for.
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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I'd expect the person in charge to be aware of what was happening, and effectively be carrying out real time risk assessments, even if they call it common sense, but not to be form filling beforehand, that should have been done by the club to form the basis of SOPs. I'd expect any incident to be reported, though.
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davidyacht ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1345 |
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Does a dinghies rigging work as a Faraday Cage? In a yacht one could have a grounding system in heavy duty cable from the top of the mast to the keel or a grounding plate. Again in yachts the thing that most experts can agree on is don't have the highest mast in the harbour!
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