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    Posted: 26 Apr 16 at 4:01pm
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Originally posted by turnturtle

 
if you hung around SA you'd probably be surprised by the numbers of Aeros being sold over there.... several hundred on the west coast apparently.  And definitely one in Texas....

Yeah right ... just like all the RS100s sold in the UK that never turned out for anything ...

http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/class/RS100/attendance


pah, what are talking about.... there was almost double figures at the RS100 sprints last weekend.   LOL
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Yeah right ... just like all the RS100s sold in the UK that never turned out for anything ...

Not turning up to nationals doesn't mean no one is using them - who knows they might even be taking part in handicap racing  Shocked
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Originally posted by turnturtle

 
if you hung around SA you'd probably be surprised by the numbers of Aeros being sold over there.... several hundred on the west coast apparently.  And definitely one in Texas....

Yeah right ... just like all the RS100s sold in the UK that never turned out for anything ...

http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/class/RS100/attendance
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Was not 'injection'  not going to be the build process for the 'Project X' ?
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Originally posted by 2547

Originally posted by JimC

AIUI z420 and CFJ are heavy detuned versions of the 420 and Flying Junior. The US market is strange! I get the impression its driven by the US college sailing market, in which it seems the boats are not maintained by the students, but instead by college employees. This means the college employees have a strong motivation to select boats that even the most ham handed students have trouble breaking.

This is exactly correct; this pretty much represents dinghy sailing in the USA.

There are a few pockets of performance dinghy sailors as we would know them but they are few & far between and are the odd ones out.

When you leave college you go into keelboat sailing; after all dinghy sailing is just for poor people who cant afford a keelboat ...

As for injection moulding 420s etc sound odd; the only injection moulded boat I know of is the Topper.

The rest are roto moulded.

I have never heard of injection moulding with glass fibre so it sounds wrong to me... maybe for small items like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBhkLuXZzCc


if you hung around SA you'd probably be surprised by the numbers of Aeros being sold over there.... several hundred on the west coast apparently.  And definitely one in Texas....
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If the reinforcement goes in with the resin it's injection, if the reinfocement is placed in beforehand it's infusion.
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Originally posted by JimC

AIUI z420 and CFJ are heavy detuned versions of the 420 and Flying Junior. The US market is strange! I get the impression its driven by the US college sailing market, in which it seems the boats are not maintained by the students, but instead by college employees. This means the college employees have a strong motivation to select boats that even the most ham handed students have trouble breaking.

This is exactly correct; this pretty much represents dinghy sailing in the USA.

There are a few pockets of performance dinghy sailors as we would know them but they are few & far between and are the odd ones out.

When you leave college you go into keelboat sailing; after all dinghy sailing is just for poor people who cant afford a keelboat ...

As for injection moulding 420s etc sound odd; the only injection moulded boat I know of is the Topper.

The rest are roto moulded.

I have never heard of injection moulding with glass fibre so it sounds wrong to me... maybe for small items like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBhkLuXZzCc
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AIUI z420 and CFJ are heavy detuned versions of the 420 and Flying Junior. The US market is strange! I get the impression its driven by the US college sailing market, in which it seems the boats are not maintained by the students, but instead by college employees. This means the college employees have a strong motivation to select boats that even the most ham handed students have trouble breaking.

Edited by JimC - 25 Apr 16 at 1:08pm
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It sounds like they're only doing it for the Sunfish, z420 and CFJ (whatever that is)
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Resin transfer moulding? A la Aero. Means a change to laser construction manual which sounds dodgy but A and B mould tools in aluminium is easily amortisable when you are doing 2000ish laser 1s a year with a colossal profit margin, and driving the manhour element down to maybe 10 - cheap in China for the time being!
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