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JimC 
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 Topic: What defines a skiff?Posted: 29 Feb 16 at 10:42am |
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We're getting old Rupert...
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iGRF
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Posted: 29 Feb 16 at 11:45am |
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So the minisail is a skiff then?
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Cirrus
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Posted: 29 Feb 16 at 11:54am |
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... well what is a 'dinghy' for that matter ?
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ventus
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Posted: 29 Feb 16 at 12:03pm |
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Think a minisail is a scow. Am sure Rupert will correct me if I am wrong.
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Rupert
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Posted: 29 Feb 16 at 12:38pm |
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The Minisail, Piccolo and the other sailing surfboards caused a naming issue back in the 60s. Skimmer was the best they could come up with. Scow works for me, though.
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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andymck
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Posted: 29 Feb 16 at 5:40pm |
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Skiff: A flatbottom open boat of shallow draft, having a pointed bow and a square stern and propelled by oars, sail, or motor.
Scow: same with two blunt ends. According to the dictionary anyway. Edited by andymck - 29 Feb 16 at 5:41pm |
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Rupert
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Posted: 29 Feb 16 at 5:50pm |
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Dictionaries don't do well at specialisms, whether it be science or sailing. The definition we are looking for is for boats based on the working skiffs of Sydney harbour, which turned into the flyers of today. In many ways, it is a heritage thing, as the skiffs of yesteryear don't fufill the criteria of today, if we are talking, fast, flat planing tea trays.
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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SUGmeister
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Posted: 29 Feb 16 at 6:15pm |
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n. "small boat," 1570s, from French esquif (1540s), from Italian schifo "little boat," from a Germanic source (e.g. Old High German scif "boat;" see ship (n.)). Originally the small boat of a ship.
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Simon SUGmeister
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andymck
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Posted: 29 Feb 16 at 6:30pm |
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To understand heritage. You have to know what it was they derived from. The post was to show the difference between a skiff and a scow.
A high performance sailing dinghy can be either, and neither. Quite clearly as you have said a true skiff is one derived from working boats of the skiff type, wherever in the world and time and therefore complexity that the sailors agree on. A |
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zippyRN
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Posted: 29 Feb 16 at 8:58pm |
so where does that put the 4 and 5 tonner ?
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