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JimC 
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 Topic: These New Road TrailersPosted: 10 Feb 16 at 11:49am |
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I don't think that works. |
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jeffers
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Posted: 10 Feb 16 at 11:52am |
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correct ignorance is no excuse and they will book you for it even if they might not know the law themselves!
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RS400atC
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Posted: 10 Feb 16 at 12:11pm |
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Meanwhile, magnetic lights and a trade plate are commonly used when towing cars...
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Cirrus
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Posted: 10 Feb 16 at 1:26pm |
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No reason to go for 'ignorance' reasoning with the boys in blue ...
Just get a decent pre-existing used combi base, there are plenty around, and do whaever is needed to maintain it ... The engineering is well proven, simple and easily sorted by you if it needs anything. And if not then by just about any small local engineering company or trailer specialist. If dinghy sailing really is 'shrinking' there should be plenty enough for all who want one. 1) You don't have to pay a 'new' price - so save yourself a bundle 2) You end up with a proven and frankly more practical arrangement 3) You stay on the right side of the law 4) It CAN last forever if you want. 5) You can watch others swearing as they have to man-handle the new fangled ones without damaging themselves or the crazy 'lights on a couple of sticks'. BTW if you ever have a problem with mounting a (loose) lighting board on an trailer base 'sans boat'. Just get a piece of timber 5" x 3" or similar is fine and shockcord it to the rear bar with heavy grade stuff or use a strap. Then either put an old set of rudder hangers on it or shockcord the board to the wood - it takes seconds and keep the lighting board nice and vertical with ease... only needs to be about a metre and a bit long. when not in use keep in garage with lighting board etc. Edited by Cirrus - 10 Feb 16 at 1:28pm |
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ChrisB14
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Posted: 10 Feb 16 at 2:11pm |
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Looking at Harbeck, the insane pricing is probably better explained by their urge to overcomplicate things (the swinging ramps for the trolley to roll onto are the most prominent example). Sure, the lighting board extension will cost, but not that much. Getting the lighting bar on and off on those trailers is normally a quick thing. Takes a bit longer on Harbeck than on others, though. |
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In build: Farr 3.7 GBR 410 (both sail number and the current number of loose parts) |
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Bellingforth
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Posted: 10 Feb 16 at 2:24pm |
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True, but powerboats generally just have a trailer that's used for launching rather than a piggy-back trolley. The axle will be further back and there'll be trailer structure pretty much all the way to the stern anyway as there's a heavy noisy thing to support. Hence their light support arms will be relatively short. So the basic problem as others have mentioned is that the EU law states that lights must be part of the trailer. However, it's fairly common to see another 'piggy back' trailer application that seems to have escaped this rule - those artics which have a fork-lift stuck on the back. They seem to be ok with the trailer lights being mounted on the fork-lift rather than on outriggers from the artic trailer. Obviously the road haulage people don't take any carp from the EU!
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Gfinch
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Posted: 10 Feb 16 at 10:16pm |
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Recently I was behind someone towing a Laser with a new trailer, could hardly read the numberplate as the board was bouncing up and down so much. I initially thought they hadn't secured it properly then realized it was a new trailer.
All 3 of my dinghies have clips on the back of the cover for lighting boards, P&B and others offer this. Easiest solution that is for sure. |
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Granite
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I had a little look around the standards and directives
availible online and I don't think it is as bad as some are making out. The recent change is that to manufacture or sell a trailer it has to be to type approved. To type approve a trailer it will have be assessed to comply with the applicable standards including those for lighting. Therefore the trailer has to be designed and sold with a set of compliant lights. You then get the extension bars as it does not make sense to design a trailer that can’t be legal when the intended load is carried.
However, the new requirements are for the sale of trailers and don’t seem to cover the use, so it would seem that providing your lighting arrangements still comply with The Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989 then lights mounted on the boat could be an acceptable means of compliance.
It also looks like this is a UN driven idea to harmonise vehicle standards across countries as an aid to movement of vehicles that is being implemented by the EU rather than originating in the EU. |
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If it doesn't break it's too heavy; if it does it wasn't built right
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Contender443
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Posted: 11 Feb 16 at 12:59pm |
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Why are all worried what the police might say. They have much better things to do with their time than chase us for incorrect use of lights on a trailer. Like catching us all speeding.
So as long as your boat is secure, lights working and secure in whatever way you think is best then they have very little to complain about. It is all about making sure you have a safe and secure load that is not going to cause an accident.
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zippyRN
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Posted: 12 Feb 16 at 1:40am |
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recovering not towing ...
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