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    Posted: 05 Feb 16 at 4:31pm
Originally posted by Vronny

If you want to build your own wooden boat and be part of a well-established class, then the Streaker has to be a good bet. At last year's Nationals there were at least 4 home-built boats competing. You can get a kit from Butler Boats or plans from the class assoc.

I know the Streak Owners Association website mentions those kits, but has anyone recently actually contacted Dave Butler and asked? I remember being told that such a kit does not exist. Maybe things have changed.
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Whilst I would love to think of lots of people re-engaging with building wooden racing dinghies, I suspect that only the retired can find time for such projects in today's world; which is a shame.
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I disagree. There are people out there building boats while still working and in many cases with families. 
In my case, spending time in the workshop working on the Farr is a nice alternative to an evening on the couch in front of the TV and I can't wait to get back to it. I only took a break as I knew we had a move coming up and wanted the boat in an easy to move state.


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Originally posted by davidyacht

Whilst I would love to think of lots of people re-engaging with building wooden racing dinghies, I suspect that only the retired can find time for such projects in today's world; which is a shame.

In todays world we come home play on our computors ipads etc. Its a myth that you have less time than the generations that built wooden boats.
My dad worked full time, maintained his own cars, extended and maintained his house(no plastic windows)had a huge veg patch to feed four hungry kids in the high inflation late sixties and seventies. Helped us build and maintain Mirrors and canoes etc.
The only thing I don't remember him doing was sitting watching telly except to watch the rugby on the occasional Saturday afternoon.
We choose to spend our time on Y&Y forum and social media and say we are to busy to build and maintain wooden boats.
Oh and he only got two weeks holiday a year.
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Originally posted by JimC

It is funny though: other than the OK there's not an obvious mid range singlehander you can build. Streaker and Solo are much of a muchness on peformance then its up to the Phantom or of course the IC )


I agree and apart from the Hadron the classes mentioned are old designs.
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I agree and apart from the Hadron the classes mentioned are old designs.


You say that like it's a bad thing....

The fact that they're old designs still being home built and raced proves that they're GOOD designs.

Actually, a bigger indicator that they're good designs is that they're still being commercially produced too....
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Originally posted by JimC

It is funny though: other than the OK there's not an obvious mid range singlehander you can build. Streaker and Solo are much of a muchness on peformance then its up to the Phantom or of course the IC )

Jim suggests that there may be a gap for a mid range singlehander you can build ... My point is that there is no mass amateur (or professional) plywood movement as existed in the 70's, therefore it seems unlikely that any boat intended to fill that gap would be built in sufficient numbers to gain traction.

Back in the day a significant proportion of Jack Holt designs were built by amateurs, or by one man band professional boatbuilders.

It might be possible to build such a boat in either plywood or FRP, however in most classes where both constructions are allowed, FRP seems to dominate.

I must admit to liking the look of the Hadron ... But I wonder whether the RS300 might appeal to a similar market in FRP, i.e. A technical one design that resembles a single handed N12/Merlin or Skol Moth.
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Spot on rogerd. 
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Originally posted by davidyacht

. A technical one design that resembles a single handed N12


AFAIK there's only one N12 kit available.... It might form the basis of a new single handed class...  Beamy and moderately powered...

http://www.fyneboatkits.co.uk/kits/sailing/national-12/
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Originally posted by davidyacht

Jim suggests that there may be a gap for a mid range singlehander you can build ...

No, I'm making no such suggestion.

All I was saying was that its kinda odd that there isn't one, but thinking back to those days when the Laser came out, there wasn't really much in the way of popular singlehanders much faster than a Solo until you got to the two real performance boats. We shouldn't forget that the Laser was quicker than most hiking singlehanders back then.

I suppose it could be said that just because there appears to be a gap in the market, it doesn't mean there's a market in the gap...

Edited by JimC - 06 Feb 16 at 8:26am
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