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SailingRacing 
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 Topic: Sailing Hardware SpendPosted: 04 Jan 16 at 3:11pm |
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Hi all,
After a straw poll market size. What would you say you spend per year on sailing hardware (excluding ropes), and which brand is your default. I have put a short survey together and would be grateful for some feedback Thanks Edited by SailingRacing - 04 Jan 16 at 3:14pm |
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blueboy
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Posted: 04 Jan 16 at 3:38pm |
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Who are you and why do you want to know?
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SailingRacing
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Posted: 04 Jan 16 at 3:44pm |
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I am just thinking about what the market size for sailing hardware really is?
Thanks Paul
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PaulPoshW
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Posted: 04 Jan 16 at 4:45pm |
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Short answer is massive. £Millions
Is there space in the market for another brand? Would be difficult to launch against the current crop who have it pretty well covered Problem with hardware is everyone would like to spend £0 as it tends to mean something is worn out or broken.
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piglet
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Posted: 04 Jan 16 at 6:17pm |
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When I bought cheap boats I spent lots on hardware, now we are solely in manufacturer one designs I only buy hardware when something breaks, which isn't very often.
I have slowly come around to paying through the nose for Harken, I reckon you save in the long term. If there is market potential it might be top end quality at far eastern prices, but given the volumes that doesn't seem likely. |
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SailingRacing
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Posted: 04 Jan 16 at 7:21pm |
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Thanks all, I think you are correct re the market for a new brand, but I also wonder why you can't get things cheaper via the web than in shops.
Looking at cycling (admittedly a bigger market) you can always get cheaper on those well known sites, than you would as a "distress" purchase when you break something and need it NOW.
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iGRF
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Posted: 04 Jan 16 at 8:43pm |
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Because there is a stronger cartel operating in the Dinghy world in flagrant breach of consumer rights and retail price maintenance laws.
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Time Lord
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Posted: 04 Jan 16 at 9:06pm |
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Or could it be that the dinghy world has better quality fitting. In some 20 years of sailing Merlins, I have only broken a few items - burgees (probably one a year @ £6-8 each; tiller extension joints (4-5 @ about £10 each as I buy the ones with a string through the centre); a couple of jib cleats (simply worn out @ perhaps £20 each); one tiller which I sat on pulling up the spinnaker. Add to that one square topped hoop as a result of a weld failure and that one probably cost more to replace that all the others but is not a mass production item. Can't think that I have ever broken a block - decent quality ones seem to be largely bulletproof.
But probably more spent on string - spinnaker halyards and tapered sheets; tapered jib sheets; main halyards; occasional shrouds. Overall conclusion, most hardware in form of blocks, cleats, etc is sold to the dinghy building industry! |
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davidyacht
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Posted: 04 Jan 16 at 10:01pm |
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I would concur, very rarely buy hardware anymore,but I do change my boat every three years, and boats are so well laid out that there is little to change. The existing brands are pretty good and I can't see the space in an apparently declining market ... Harken or Ronstan have it pretty well covered. I do spend a ridiculous amount on cordage and Zhik gear though.
Despite GF's theories, not sure that any of the online retailers are making a killing, even if there were a cartel, and without doubt local chandlers struggle to hold the stock that the mail order specialists do ... Frankly the dinghy business is a cottage industry compared with bikes.
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Paramedic
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On planet iGRF anyway. |
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