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    Posted: 23 Sep 15 at 11:55am
Originally posted by JimC

I have a feeling that there *was* a case but it isn't there at the moment.

I'd disqualify both for failing to keep clear of a leeward boat and failing to avoid a collision and let them argue the toss with the RYA appeals if they wanted to.

That is now my thinking Jim. Perhaps there should be a query raised with the RYA/ISAF as this is a pretty common occurrence.
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You have to go to the definitions.
so, 1) I think the definitions say that they are overlapped: rather oddly the definitions seem to say that two boats pointing bow on at each other are overlapped.

and 2) Each boat has a boat on its leeward side, which is therefore a Leeward boat and is to windward of it, so is itself a windward boat.

Rule 11 says a windward boat shall keep clear of a leeward boat, therefore each boat is required to keep clear of the other, otherwise its in breach of RRS11.

So I DSQ both, and let cleverer and more expert people at the RYA sort out if I should have exonerated one of them.
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Really interested in the answer to this one. When I first looked at it I was certain the answer was obvious, but now I'm not sure.

Hope someone can explain the law to see if I was right or just stupid/out of date.

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I have a feeling that there *was* a case but it isn't there at the moment.

I'd disqualify both for failing to keep clear of a leeward boat and failing to avoid a collision and let them argue the toss with the RYA appeals if they wanted to.
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Posted on another sailing forum. Which boat is the keep clear boat and why?

My understanding is that blue is keep clear boat but I am now questioning that. There is apparently a case in the casebook that covers this but I cannot see which one. Perhaps Gordon or Brass could give their view?

There was contact between sails/booms at point 2:


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