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Tctor68 
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 Topic: Dinghy Identification ??Posted: 01 Jul 15 at 4:13pm |
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Hi new to the Forum, I'm looking for help with my circa 1960's fast planing dinghy.
It is 14ft long 6ft broad 24ft mast 10ft boom Inside has a double floor, curved like a 505 Fully battened main sail Large genoa Sliding seat I have sailed it a couple of times in late 1970's, before buying a Unicorn catamaran. When it was put into dry storage. The sail ensign looks a bit like a Merlin Rocket , but not totally coloured in.      The bottom got a hole in it, so it was stripped ready for new wood which still is lying ready for fitting. Any help in discovering what type of boat it is and how many left. Regards Tor Kydland |
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Rupert
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Posted: 01 Jul 15 at 5:28pm |
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Dougledog will be wetting himself at this point. Not got any books handy, but is it a Daring? Designed by Bill O'Brien.
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jaydub
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Posted: 01 Jul 15 at 8:13pm |
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Looks like it may be. The sail insignia matches the picture on the CVRDA web site.
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Tctor68
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Posted: 01 Jul 15 at 8:39pm |
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Thanks for that Rupert & Jaydub
Funny that but the previous owner said Daring, but the Daring was a Keelboat so me thinks he was mistaken. It has a trapeze as well, the sliding seat was for the Helm as he went single handed often. The wood work is all in good condition. If any one is interested in a project, let me know. Cheers Tor |
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Rupert
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Posted: 01 Jul 15 at 9:55pm |
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Looks like the photos on the cvrda page have made the same error. There were 2 boats called Daring, but very, very different. I'm not sure whether any apart from this one still exist - certainly I thought they might have been gone for ever.
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Dougaldog
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Posted: 01 Jul 15 at 10:17pm |
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Okay, for starters, it is a Daring - though altered to take the 'plank'. A wonderfully quick boat in it's day, the Daring and it's bigger brother, the Challenge, were popular along the South Coast.
What is more important is that as Rupert said, the accepted view was that they'd all long gone (though a few Challenges - known rather cruelly as the 'poor man's 505' - remain). But the ply back then was not so good and many took up water and went soft. So this is a real 'find' - the last of a class of boat that for a while attracted a great deal of attention and brought a number of great helms to prominence (one example being Keith Paul - the first Brit to win the 505 Worlds). If you can give me a few days - I'm not at home at present and don't have access to my records - I can come up with a lot more detail. D |
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Chris 249
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Posted: 01 Jul 15 at 10:19pm |
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If it is a Daring, which seems very likely, these plans and article from the designer will be of interest;
http://www.ayrs.org/repository/AYRS008.pdf Oh- and thanks for preserving this bit of history! (EDIT - posted before DD conformed the identification by Rupert and Jaydub, but the info may still be useful)
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JimC
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Posted: 01 Jul 15 at 10:47pm |
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There are quite a number of cases where the same name has been used for very different classes...
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Rupert
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Posted: 02 Jul 15 at 7:36am |
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Yup, I sail a Lightning, for instance. American friends have completely the wrong idea!
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Posted: 02 Jul 15 at 9:13am |
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The speedo solution on page 22 is actually very simple and very clever... how fast are we going ... very fast, the water level is too high to see :)
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