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    Posted: 02 Jun 15 at 12:51pm
I'm surprised to hear the Alto isn't self draining anyway.... That's a bit of an oversight isn't it?
Needs to sail more...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Woodburner Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 15 at 1:02pm
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This boat is also a sieve it's had that many holes drilled in it, I swear it even took on water towing it from the club to the man cave.


I assume this detail will be left off the classified ad if you come to sell it?

The beauty of epoxy filler, a sander and a good paint job.. unlike that wood stuff that rots from within..
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Woodburner Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 15 at 1:03pm
Originally posted by tgruitt

I'm surprised to hear the Alto isn't self draining anyway.... That's a bit of an oversight isn't it?

That my friend is understatement of the week.
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You could do “dinghy land” a favor and drive the development of a “single wire skiff-type dinghy for two grown ups”  following the ISO / Laser 4000 forward.

The RS800 failed in the single wire version and 29er, RS500, V3000, Laser Vago etc. are just too small.

Cockpit·         Not having a double floor cockpit is a step back compared to all these and even many “traditional” classes other than the 505. To save some weight and get the centerboard closer to the water when capsized you could than cut out the side tanks like this  http://www.mader-boote.de/neue-boote/korsar/

·         Cutting down the centreboard case will also save some weight, control lines could be led to (and through) side decks as shown instead.

·         An aft briddle would allow to remove the mainsheet hoop. Less weight und way better optics.

·         Same for the mainsheet jammer, Auto ratchet block on the boom should work just fine.

·         If the added stiffness of the double floor allows a more open transom design would make  crawling in if all went wrong easier and look much better. (And make sure the builder did not hide some wood there)

 

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·         Some shiny carbon thing for the chute opening would be a lot more stylish

·         The sheaves to the right and left of the pole look so 1960s, replace by something like this https://www.coastwatersports.co.uk/selden-cheek-block-p-2304.html

·         Chute obviously needs to be black J

 

AltO  still got many things right, so there is some potential!

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Thanks skslr, excellent advice, the hoop was going anyway and I was going to trim the centre console there is way too much of it. Tbh the side tanks don't really support it that high out of the water but I guess they might if the bottom were to thick, it would be an absolute joy if it were double bottomed and done in the way you suggest, good to see someone else has some vision.
I've ordered those two Selden cheek blocks I can mount them so they are further outboard, I quite like those Turbo 60's thingies they came to me wrapped around a can of Frey bentos pie, given to me by a psychologically disturbed young man who I managed to save into the heaven that is windsurfing. Regrettably he took to swimming in birds mess and has caught pneumonia he's not expected to survive well not in the same form we knew him..


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