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    Posted: 29 Apr 15 at 11:10pm
Very good sailor at my club moved from 2000 to 200; he's very light and finding it wobbly and 'technical' but he is really trying to win. There is also a couple at about your weight in a 200 and they seem fine in it, just don't win ever.
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Buyers market for the 200 at the moment, make a silly offer and it may get accepted.

That said, Your weight distribution is not suited to the 200. The 200 is not a particularly good sea boat either so as others have said, it depends where you sail.

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Have you completely ruled out the kestrel - they are a great two person boat, and you can learn the pleasures of symmetric spinnaker sailing. and theres one already at your club. Are there any 200/400?

Having said that the 400 will probably be quicker, and is lighter to handle on shore. I bought a new kestrel 15 years ago, and took it out on the sea at goreleston, there were a load of 400s there at the time and I must admit being slightly envious when struggling to keep the boat flat  on fine spinnaker reaches, in a force 4 whilst the 400s came tonking past and didn.t seem to be working that hard.

edit to add: if you want to win handicap races, get a Miracle Wink


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Whichever you buy try and get some class specific training from RS, it could get you going a lot quicker than fumbling about on your own. Or book a holiday where both boats are (Menorca?) and have a week trying them both out.
Good luck with whichever you go for.
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Originally posted by sawman

 

edit to add: if you want to win handicap races, get a Miracle Wink
Amen to that. Or an L3k or Buzz or Merlin
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Originally posted by transient

The 200 is not a particularly good sea boat either so as others have said, it depends where you sail.

The 200 is a perfectly good sea boat ... what makes you say that?

Used ones should be cheap now that RS has redesigned them ...
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Originally posted by 2547

Originally posted by transient

The 200 is not a particularly good sea boat either so as others have said, it depends where you sail.

The 200 is a perfectly good sea boat ... what makes you say that?

Used ones should be cheap now that RS has redesigned them ...


I find them perfectly good at sea, downwind in a bit of chop they are brilliant fun!
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Originally posted by 2547

Originally posted by transient

The 200 is not a particularly good sea boat either so as others have said, it depends where you sail.

The 200 is a perfectly good sea boat ... what makes you say that?

Used ones should be cheap now that RS has redesigned them ...


Relative to other boats being discussed. I wouldn't say it's a bad sea boat, just not particularly good.....tis a short boat......  when it gets water in it doesn't drain as well as other boats. Even with an open transom it retains a remarkable amount of water.......and because of a factor that everyone seems to be tired of discussing.

I would imagine it's great on a large pond though.

...and yes it's a buyers market for most second hand boats at the moment but particularly so with the 200 (in my experience)


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200 is a great sea boat though certain others (2000) hold better to PY in waves.
We have never had a problem self draining upwind unless we over cook a tack and scoop 1/2 a cockpit full, then we have to carry it until the bearaway, not quick!
I suspect heavier teams may suffer a bit with self draining upwind.
 
I know of husband & wife 400 teams who do fine though one female 400 crew did pass comment on sheet loads recently and they sail inland.
 
NickA said 200's are wobbly and technical, they wobble but don't fall over and technical because the small kite means downwind decisions, not just hoist & blast away.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote transient Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Apr 15 at 12:54pm
......it's all relative.

and I didn't say they aren't fun either. If the OP isn't bothered about handicap races and just wants to do opens then what I said has very limited significance.
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