Two man club racer

   Very good sailor at my club moved from 2000 to 200; he's very light and finding it wobbly and 'technical' but he is really trying to win. There is also a couple at about your weight in a 200 and they seem fine in it, just don't win ever.

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NickA Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 784	Post Options Post Reply Quote NickA Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Two man club racer Posted: 29 Apr 15 at 11:10pm
	Very good sailor at my club moved from 2000 to 200; he's very light and finding it wobbly and 'technical' but he is really trying to win. There is also a couple at about your weight in a 200 and they seem fine in it, just don't win ever.
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elzorillo Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 04 Apr 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 58	Post Options Post Reply Quote elzorillo Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 29 Apr 15 at 11:00pm
	Thanks for the replies.. Pretty much decided it's between the 200/400. Just need to have a test sail in them to decide. Thanks again for all the replies.

NickA Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 784	Post Options Post Reply Quote NickA Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 29 Apr 15 at 10:35pm
	But the 2000 is pretty dull in less than a force 6. Rs400 much more fun once the steep learning curve is climbed. Does it have to be a hiker? People seem to find trapezes forbidding, but they make life much more comfy for the crew and let you sail a faster boat with less effort and weight.
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Rupert Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rupert Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 28 Apr 15 at 5:28pm
	Having sailed Bahiaaaaa and 2000, certainly a step up, but at the same time, a familiar layout and sailing feel. Just nicer and less like a bouncy castle.
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piglet Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 04 Jan 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 514	Post Options Post Reply Quote piglet Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 28 Apr 15 at 4:52pm
	Elzorillo didn't say what their launching situation is or if they have a preferance to Assy, Simmy or neither. Given that the Bahia is a 10 ton Assy, is the 2000 a step up or a sted sideways? I'm with Uffa Fox on weight, hence our 'mid weight' 200. We did have Vago before the 200 which would have been a nice boat if 30Kg lighter and a bit stiffer.

getafix Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 28 Mar 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2143	Post Options Post Reply Quote getafix Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 28 Apr 15 at 3:51pm
	From the OP I'm most tempted to suggest the 2000 - good class, loads of boats around, strong 2nd hand, good open circuit, easy to learn, challenge to master, ongoing support now RS have taken it on from L*ser. If you have the budget, you might want to consider X0 / X1, to me they look fab, loads of room, ideal for good range of inland sailing in the UK. Wayfarer is also an option, again strong class, 2nd hand market, lots of tips and spares around, easy to learn, challenge to master. Normally, I'd be put off recommending the Wayfarer on account of it's slipway weight, but frankly, if you're used to the Bahia then a WF or 2000 aint' gonna cause you any problems!

gordon1277 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 24 Mar 10 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 665	Post Options Post Reply Quote gordon1277 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 28 Apr 15 at 3:37pm
	Four lady crews cope well with the 400 at lee, one is near seventy and no amazons either, so no issue with bulging muscles.
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Woodburner Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Far too distracted from work Joined: 13 Mar 15 Location: Folkestone Kent Online Status: Offline Posts: 332	Post Options Post Reply Quote Woodburner Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 28 Apr 15 at 3:19pm
	My pals 15 year old daughter managed the kite on his 400 with devastating effect in the last long distance event I saw her in, but then she's a windsurfer, so superhuman and a generally finer being. Still haven't heard what sort of water this chap is on before y'all go recommending him museum pieces.
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JimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662	Post Options Post Reply Quote JimC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 28 Apr 15 at 2:46pm
	I never noticed the kite sheets on RS400s pulling hard, mind you I was coming from Cherubs. IME its hoists and drops that really take it out on you, and the 400 is v good in that respect. OTOH I find the mainsheet loads unberedactedlievable, and to my mind it would be better of without the hoop and given a transom bridle and off the boom sheeting. Save a few quid on new boats too... Going back to the original other key questions to add are where are you going to sail, and what are the forward hand's preferences when it comes to no spinnaker/asymettric/pole kite and also things like trapezes and getting wet tolerance. Edited by JimC - 28 Apr 15 at 3:14pm

MerlinMags Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Admin Group Joined: 19 Mar 04 Location: UK, Guildford Online Status: Offline Posts: 588	Post Options Post Reply Quote MerlinMags Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 28 Apr 15 at 1:33pm
	If you are only going to race at one club, most people prefer to sail one of the most common classes there, so there is a fleet to race amongst. (Or maybe you are happy amongst a mixed handicap fleet, as you were in the Bahia.) If you wanted to go to a few open meetings I'd suggest trying a RS200 or Merlin as they both have good circuits and lots of female crews. Depends where in the country you are. I have heard the spinnaker sheet loads on a RS400 mean it is less fun for female crews without bulging biceps. Can anyone else more learned clarify this?