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elzorillo 
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 Topic: Two man club racerPosted: 27 Apr 15 at 3:53pm |
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After a couple of years racing a Laser Bahia with my wife, we're now looking to upgrade a little to something slightly quicker.
The Bahia has been great.. it's indestructable, super stable and is out there on the water (still upright) when all but the most foolhardy are cowering in the clubhouse with a cocoa, waiting for the roof to come off. I just feel the need to get something a little quicker as in anything other than big winds it's a little like driving a truck. Excluding the old wooden boats and a single kestral, the vast majority of boats at my club are single handers.. so I've nothing to compare. Any suggestions on a decent upgrade thats popular, has a good second hand market and could offer some class racing in future if we're willing to travel? Only thing I can think of is a RS400 but should I be looking elsewhere? Any advice gratefully received as I know nothing about double handers as when not sailing with the wife i'm in a Supernova. Edited by elzorillo - 27 Apr 15 at 4:01pm |
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gordon1277
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Posted: 27 Apr 15 at 4:06pm |
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Hi
2000 would be a small step up for you, but very good open circuit and friendly fleet. We have a fleet at Lee but the open circuit is good. 400 more of a challenge have a try in one as I think it would be a very different feel to the Bahia much more tippy but a really good boat and prices for a starter boat are now very sensible. Scorpion would be a challenge with all new skills to learn symetric spinnaker. Depends a bit on your location and combined weight. |
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jeffers
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Posted: 27 Apr 15 at 5:20pm |
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Depends on combined weight and if you want a Symmetric or Assymetric kite.
A lot of husband/wife combos tend to go for the RS200 rather than the RS400 because you do not need to be so heavy to sail it effectively. I seems to recall the 400 weight was 24 stone and upwards the 200 more like 20 to 22 (I could be wrong though). What I would advise is that you try one. RS have demo centres if you are sold down that route or speak to Class Associations, they can usually find a local friendly owner who can take you out for a ride.
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patj
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Posted: 27 Apr 15 at 5:36pm |
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An Albacore could be good for you - with the raking rig you can de-power effectively in heavier winds. We're out on the water when others are preferring to watch.
Or the Merlin Rocket would also be an option - there are plenty of "Prime of Life" boats on the market and there's a new classic category for them in the class's racing. Best bet is to try some out. |
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piglet
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Posted: 27 Apr 15 at 6:36pm |
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We went 200 for a boat that was not too demanding up front and until recently was a strict one design with an active class.
It suited our weight which was about 150 but I think we are going better after the crew announced we should loose weight. We are now just under 140. I expect the Mk1's will become cheap as chips when everyone has their Mk2's. |
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Woodburner
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Posted: 27 Apr 15 at 8:06pm |
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How big is the water you're sailing on?
If it's big enough I would recommend the Alto as a fast, fun, but relatively easy to handle boat. If you don't want a kite then these Icons are very rewarding if you get it right, not as easy to sail as an Alto, but not quite as dangerous as they initially feel when you get in them and they wobble a bit. You don't want all that old dross, Merlin, Albacore, let them head to the Museum where they belong, get something modern. That X1 River boat if the water you have is either tidal or surrounded by trees another nice modern boat. Edited by Woodburner - 27 Apr 15 at 8:11pm |
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jaydub
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Posted: 28 Apr 15 at 12:01am |
This isn't the first time the 200 spec has been changed and I'm not convinced the changes now are as significant as the ones made in about 2008. The difference this time are that the deck changes are an obvious external change. The biggest advantage of the change is that the boats are now made in the UK and you won't have to wait for a shipment from Thailand if you want a new one. In terms of a sailing weight for a 2 anything from 19.5 stone to 22 stone is competitive. If you are sailing inland it will generally pay to be towards the lighter end of the scale. The 400 is definitely more of a two bloke boat, as it is much more powerful and carries weight better.
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rb_stretch
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Posted: 28 Apr 15 at 9:08am |
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Where it is often the case that the husband helms and the wife crews I certainly found the Albacore far more versatile than something like a 200. Any weight in the back of the 200 just seems to slow it right down, whereas the extra length of the Albacore seems to make all sorts of combinations work. It rates just a touch quicker than a 200.
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turnturtle
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Posted: 28 Apr 15 at 9:36am |
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Really, I've never clocked a 200 at smidge under 30 knots ;-)
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elzorillo
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Posted: 28 Apr 15 at 1:16pm |
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Thanks for all the suggestions. certainly food for thought. Combined weight is about 24stone with the bulk of it at the helm end of the boat ;)
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