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    Posted: 26 Jan 15 at 3:26pm
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Originally posted by Simon Lovesey


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Simon, the last phantom, 1034, was sailing with a tin rig.  Is there any way we can get hold of the data so we could cluck ste his place according to our local handicap for older phantoms?  Just for curiosity's sake?

What's your older Phantom PY  ?
Yes would be interesting to re-process,  fits in with our project on Age related handicaps 

Tin rigs sail off 1035 at Hunts. Thanks very much.

On that age of boat it will be one of the heavier GRP hulls as well wont it?  


Most definitely Russ. The polyester boats were up to 14kgs overweight. That makes the difference, not the tin rig.
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Originally posted by Null

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Originally posted by fab100

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Originally posted by Daniel Holman

Did you own Nick Craig then Russ?

Dunno about Nick Craig but it looks like a couple of EPS's might have gift wrapped his botty..

Makes me wonder what a Beard powered EPS could have done to him..

Err, the results say EPSs 34 and 78, First Aero 23 and Zero 32.

Nick 9th, beaten by 2xPhantom (1st and 3rd on their so mean PYS, 4 in top 15), 2 300, 1 each Contender, RS600, Blaze and Laser 

Hadn't realised the second one was back that far, but in any event the first one would have been an ordinary human I'd guess, as against some flown in sky jockey in an Aero, and in light wind imagine what could have happened with somebody really good with a beard in an EPS.

Graeme the guy in the EPS was a pretty good sailor from what I saw.  I cant ever remember being beaten by and EPS on the water before.  But that's probably because I have only sailed against a handful
Well from what I've managed to google in order to rebut any further Frensham Pondsailor bollox, he appears to be a young guy from Haversham whereas the Aero guy again from my googling appears to be an Olympic Aspirant from the 470 squad.
Oh and do I need to remind you of  Broxbourne EPS encounter.. Wink

I think i still beat you Graeme?  If you remember also the boat I was sailign ahd a problem with the mast collar..... The chap in Eps  is quite a good yachter certainly better than me  here are his results in other fleets http://enter.sailracer.org/sailor_results.asp?sailor=Richard%20PAKES
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Richard Pakes from Haversham is a very handy sailor, usually in a Supernova.  I think he'd be pleased to be called young.....

Maybe they need to change his picture on the website, looks quite young from where I'm ageing..
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Richard Pakes from Haversham is a very handy sailor, usually in a Supernova.  I think he'd be pleased to be called young.....
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Which aero guy is that?

This one I think could be wrong of course..
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Which aero guy is that?
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Originally posted by Null

Originally posted by Woodbotherer

Originally posted by fab100

Originally posted by Woodbotherer

Originally posted by Daniel Holman

Did you own Nick Craig then Russ?

Dunno about Nick Craig but it looks like a couple of EPS's might have gift wrapped his botty..

Makes me wonder what a Beard powered EPS could have done to him..

Err, the results say EPSs 34 and 78, First Aero 23 and Zero 32.

Nick 9th, beaten by 2xPhantom (1st and 3rd on their so mean PYS, 4 in top 15), 2 300, 1 each Contender, RS600, Blaze and Laser 

Hadn't realised the second one was back that far, but in any event the first one would have been an ordinary human I'd guess, as against some flown in sky jockey in an Aero, and in light wind imagine what could have happened with somebody really good with a beard in an EPS.

Graeme the guy in the EPS was a pretty good sailor from what I saw.  I cant ever remember being beaten by and EPS on the water before.  But that's probably because I have only sailed against a handful
Well from what I've managed to google in order to rebut any further Frensham Pondsailor bollox, he appears to be a young guy from Haversham whereas the Aero guy again from my googling appears to be an Olympic Aspirant from the 470 squad.
Oh and do I need to remind you of  Broxbourne EPS encounter.. Wink
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That's great, he will be pleased!



and that is one of our key objectives of making more use of handicaps to acknowledge all performers,  regardless of being in a brand new boat.  
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That's great, he will be pleased!

Thanks very much  Tongue
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Originally posted by winging it

Originally posted by Simon Lovesey

Originally posted by winging it

Simon, the last phantom, 1034, was sailing with a tin rig.  Is there any way we can get hold of the data so we could cluck ste his place according to our local handicap for older phantoms?  Just for curiosity's sake?

What's your older Phantom PY  ?

Yes would be interesting to re-process,  fits in with our project on Age related handicaps 

Tin rigs sail off 1035 at Hunts. Thanks very much.

Did a test and he gains 4 places,  obviously didn't apply the logic to other boats but shows the principle 
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