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Stefan Lloyd 
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 Topic: Americas Cup Fiasco...Posted: 03 Dec 07 at 2:55pm |
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Rupert
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Posted: 04 Dec 07 at 4:04pm |
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The America's cup, from day 1 on, has been a way for very rich men to spend obscene amounts of money on their own personal playground while the rest of us look on in wonder/disgust/envy/pity - they care not which. It is nothing to do with it being a world championship (Ian Williams has just become match racing world champ, and he might not even get a ride, or want one) or even a challenge between nations. It is a challenge between individuals, with less rich companies jumping on the bandwagon if they can see a way of raising their profile and so becoming richer. So why worry about loosing sponsorship, when the whole thing has no more to do with world sport than World Wrestling Entertainment, who seem to have plenty of backers.
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Rupert
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Posted: 04 Dec 07 at 4:07pm |
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PS - doesn't men I'm not going to watch it all - the court battles are also a bit like the staged shouting matches that go on before steroid monsters hit each other over the head with folding chairs - great fun and entertaining, but nothing to get het up about.
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iwsmithuk
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Posted: 04 Dec 07 at 4:17pm |
Seconded. Bloated obscene nonsense for spoilt playboys. |
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ColH
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Posted: 04 Dec 07 at 6:22pm |
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I've seen various reports on this row, but nothing that explains from step 1 what its all about. Can anyone summarise in a sentence or two what the dispute is actually over? Edit: ok, so I gather BMW Oracle believe they should be the Challenger Of Record, but what privileges does that title convey? Edited by ColH |
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craiggo
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Posted: 05 Dec 07 at 12:04pm |
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Basically, Alinghi created a yacht club in Spain to act as official challenger for the next AC. The Spanish yacht club didnt meet the requirements to be a challenger (in the eyes of GGYC and most of the sailing world). As Alinghi then became both challenger and defender they wrote the rules for the next cup.
GGYC won court case which means that they are now the official challenger and are therefore entitled to set the rules, and in the interests of trying to keep the AC going have suggested that the AC90 rule be used as it has been modified to thier approval. I think that sums it up. |
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catmandoo
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Posted: 05 Dec 07 at 12:13pm |
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its worth bearring in mind that "rich men SPENDING obscene amounts of money " helps the world go round , its the ones that stuff it under their beds we should worry about .
The AC is a circus and as such we should enjoy the many facets of the spectacal , and for the lucky ones capitalise on the "rich mens spending ." |
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Stefan Lloyd
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Posted: 05 Dec 07 at 1:34pm |
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It's far more complicated than that and I'm not going to write an essay but the challenger doesn't "set the rules". There is an interesting debate going on at SA on whether GGYC has shot themselves in the foot. |
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craiggo
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Posted: 06 Dec 07 at 12:24pm |
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Stefan,
Colh wanted a one paragraph explanation. It doesnt cover all the details otherwise it wouldnt meet Colh's request but it pretty much sums it up. |
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Laser 173312
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Posted: 07 Dec 07 at 9:27am |
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Supprising statement from GGYC that if they win 33rd cup in Valencia they would hold the 34th in Valencia not San Fransisco.
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