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    Posted: 18 Nov 14 at 4:55pm
Except that knowing how you've performed against your personal handicap is mostly of interest if you are PY racing.

If you are racing in a single-class fleet then your place in the pecking order is very evident as you cross the finish line.  I suppose knowing how far behind the head-chicken you are in percentage terms might be of marginal interest, but I'd have thought that a glance at goings-on on the water should tell you enough about the awful truth.
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I guess the ultimate personal handicap system could contribute to a national ranking list..

If the top guys were regarded as scratch which I guess is how golfers do it, given once they've achieved a certain pro level, I don't do Golf it's for Women and Blokes Waiting to die, I'm a Dinghy Sailor waiting to die.

But it would still be kind of cool to try and work your way onto a national ranking list wouldn't it, if such a thing could be developed, that Barts data could be used as a starter could it not?
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Buying an RS Aero might be the ultimate personal handicap.... If you can't get back in it after taking a tumble!

http://propercourse.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/rs-aero-capsize-recovery.html?m=1
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Originally posted by kneewrecker

Buying an RS Aero might be the ultimate personal handicap.... If you can't get back in it after taking a tumble!

http://propercourse.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/rs-aero-capsize-recovery.html?m=1
That really needs to go on the Aero thread, KW, for future reference.  We'll never think to look on this thread!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote kneewrecker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Nov 14 at 5:23pm
That would be a little harsh wouldn't it? Besides there's videos on their FB now quelling this accusation...
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It appears to have been a fat American trying to right the boat. I think I'd have a go myself before giving an opinion on the ease of righting. No surprise that a light boat wants to come over on top, though - Newton's laws will come into force.
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Originally posted by Rupert

It appears to have been a fat American trying to right the boat. 
190 pound (86kg - hardly excessive) British ex-pat from what I gather on other pages.  Experienced Laser sailor to boot.  Not to be discounted lightly.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Do Different Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Nov 14 at 6:26pm
Okay. Stupid question, shoot me down in flames time. Why do designers make boats so buoyant?

My Contender floats so high for a short a**e like me I nearly need to kick and jump like a blinkin' sea lion after a ball to reach the Centre Board. Generally if I miss the dry capsize I let it invert and then walk it up so I finish up standing on the board.

Whereas my trusty XXXXXXX floats much lower and comes up so full you'd think she's sinking. And no she doesn't try to roll over again like a car ferry with water on the deck because it's all in the middle (single skin foam sandwich floor) with nice slim side decks. Huge transom cutouts with a bit of breeze and it's sailed out in no time. Who capsizes in light wind anyway?  Wink 

Yes I know GRF is all for wash through come up dry but I know what I prefer.
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Further proof that it's rapidly becoming a kids boat to some perceptions- the same could happen with an oppy

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Nov 14 at 6:43pm
Originally posted by Medway Maniac

Originally posted by Rupert

It appears to have been a fat American trying to right the boat. 
190 pound (86kg - hardly excessive) British ex-pat from what I gather on other pages.  Experienced Laser sailor to boot.  Not to be discounted lightly.


I'd be very fat at 86kgs - quite fat at 72...

Mostly, though it is the technique that will need honing - not likely to have happened over a 10 minute period at Minorca sailing. I could say exactly the same of Lasers, as I'm short and have trouble with such a wide sidedeck to pull myself over - doesn't mean I'd write an article about it based on a lunchtime sail.
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