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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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Thanks, Brass. I'm sure you are right, and if I were the permanent race officer I'd be automating as you suggest like a shot.
But the fact is that our ROs are different every week, most of them do the duty just twice a year, and many are no longer regular racers or even visitors to the club, so any system we introduce has to be completely fool-proof. The thought of them needing to find (it would go walkabout) an android tablet, switch it on and operate an unfamiliar app makes my heart sink, let alone what might become of a go-pro; we had a club-wide search for a printer cable a few weeks ago, which someone had 'tidied up'. A repeat-countdown timer with auto-hoot is nonetheless something that might just work here, provided it is built-in and has just a couple of very well labelled buttons. We need to look into it. |
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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This is the reason why we still use our old and creaky custom box at Hunts. The lake it a bit small for the course to cope with 3 starts on a 5-4-1-Go (as fleet 1 would be coming through the line at fleet 3 were starting). 3-2-1-Go is probably a little short too if you are intermixing the starts. With 6-3-G0 you get 3 minutes between starts (meaning any stragglers from fleet1 are gone before fleet 2 is lining up). It works well and is why we still use it. The only thing that I wish the would do it have a 1 minute warning (and drop the prep as with 5-4-1-Go) but this would currently need to be a manual process to we cannot easily do it. There is some talk of getting an autohoot to replace what we have but knowing our committee this is likely to take years (it has already been talked about for at least 2 years).
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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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So you'd ideally like a 6-3-1-go-1-go-1-go sequence, Jeffers? Maybe just a hoot but no flag-shifting at the '1'? |
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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No 6-3-Go for all fleets (with a 1 in case you are using a subsitute as a prep). Would mean a lot of flag rasing and dropping though:
Fleet 1 6 - Class Fleet 1 3 - Prep and Fleet 2 Class Fleet 1 1 - Prep drop Fleet 1 go - Fleet 1 class drop and prep back up for fleet 2 and so on.....
So the 3 for fleet 1 is the 6 for Fleet 2. Gives you 3 min between fleet starts. 1 min between starts is not enough, especially if you have a recall of any kind (IMO). |
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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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Ah, see what you mean, Jeffers.
By 3-2-1-go, I meant we were having 3 minutes between starts, but with a flag-shift and horn every minute in the same sequence we use for 5-4-1-go. It seems that many people using a 6-3-go rolling sequence such as you, do not bother dropping the prep till the end of the sequence. I guess that's what you do if you're just using the P flag? Are your club SI's available on-line?
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6660 |
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These are my clubs SIs. We use 4-2-go.
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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They should be online but they are not, I shall speak to out webmaster! Yes we keep the P flag up once it is raised and then drop it at the last start (we never have cause to use a substitute as we can usually identify boats over).
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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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Thanks Jim. Looks like a good starting point for us, but now we must wait for Brass's reaction!
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marke ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 16 Jun 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 211 |
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We use a custom combined auto lights box and horn system. Its been running for about 15 years with no failures apart from needing to replace its small configuration screen a few years ago. Press one button at the start of the sequence and it displays the various lights and sounds the horns for up to five starts. It also has lights for signalling OCS and general recall (and shorten course) I have seen a few other clubs that have combined lights/horns systems, but after sailing at many clubs who used flags or buckets for signalling (which is often daunting for new OODs), I'm sort of surprised that more clubs don't invest in something similar. I don't know how much ours cost - but I'm sure it was less than a grand from a local electronics contractor - £65 a year a bargain. sailing instructions are HERE |
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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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Thanks marke. We really need something like that.
You almost certainly have an escape button; do you have dedicated for each of the recalls, individual and general? I'm wondering what you physically do to schedule a general recall [hmm, too easy and some of our ROs might get recall happy...]
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