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    Posted: 27 Aug 14 at 10:44am
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SailFest should consider a venue with on-site camping so you can get the real festival feel and camping makes it much cheaper.

Perhaps a big inland venue would work which could support multiple courses and camping.

That's how the National Watersports Festival works, except it's obviously not 'inland' as that would be utterly rubbish....  some folks pussy out and go and find a B&B to get a decent night's kip...  Embarrassed LOL

There's a new kite surf brand there this year- I've no interest in the product, but apparently the guy on the stand is a famous yachtsman from Kent.  

That looks like a proper festival of sailing ... perhaps SailFest should annex the NWF ... add some dinghies into the mix.
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It needs the RYA to shift the Dinghy Exhibition to the early summer (a june weekend, during term time when families want to make the most of the being outdoors, but aren't 'on holiday' elsewhere). 

Then actually combine it with some bloody sailing.... I never understand you guys who go to the Dinghy Exhibition.  Why would you lose a sailing pass to trudge around an exhibition hall in North London?  Now if those stands were at a 'Big Event' e.g. Sailfest, now that would surely be a far better footfall, and also provide a fantastic demo opportunity for gear & boats.  
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Originally posted by 2547

Originally posted by kneewrecker

Originally posted by 2547

SailFest should consider a venue with on-site camping so you can get the real festival feel and camping makes it much cheaper.

Perhaps a big inland venue would work which could support multiple courses and camping.

That's how the National Watersports Festival works, except it's obviously not 'inland' as that would be utterly rubbish....  some folks pussy out and go and find a B&B to get a decent night's kip...  Embarrassed LOL

There's a new kite surf brand there this year- I've no interest in the product, but apparently the guy on the stand is a famous yachtsman from Kent.  

That looks like a proper festival of sailing ... perhaps SailFest should annex the NWF ... add some dinghies into the mix.

I contacted Allan Cross (the organiser) about running a 'special dinghy fleet' this year doing some slalom racing.... my interest wained when I realised I wouldn't actually have one (yet).  

If Rodney and/or the RS boys are reading- my idea, which wasn't discounted by Allan the way, was to get an invitational for RS Aeros, D-Zeros and Lasers (8.1s welcome)... no PY, one fleet- run what you brung.   The Aeros would have killed it, y'know, not needing launching trolleys or anything.  LOL Wink

Maybe 2015?  (Anyway, this isn't meant to distract or take the thread O/T... someone start a new one if there's interest, or they just want to rubbish the idea please)


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Originally posted by 2547

SailFest should consider a venue with on-site camping so you can get the real festival feel and camping makes it much cheaper.

Perhaps a big inland venue would work which could support multiple courses and camping.

We had camping at Calshot with more people choosing that option over the on-site B&B.  On the Saturday the Skiff sailors entertained us and the locals in the bar during the quiz which had some interactive elements involving cucumbers.  Sunday's more formal meal seemed to be enjoyed by all.   

As mentioned by others the weather and lower numbers than last year made for some challenging decisions.  With a bigger entry we could have run two course areas.
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Don't get me wrong, I think Sailfest was/is a great idea. Simon, /Brenda and co. made every effort, they are charming and helpful people. It is also a great idea to gather minor classes together for Nationals but it will always be an addition to the normal run of open events and championships. Of the about 50 boats, 12 were Bytes (in Nationals). 10 Iso's (in Nationals). 6 18' Skiffs (in Nationals) and 2 Alto's (in Nationals). Plus the Booterscooter lot in a total of 5 boats!

I know I have grumbled about the Byte problems but the real culprit was the weather so forget about that. How about a 'Festival of Classes'? There are many small Nationals turnouts out there, FD, Europe even Ruperts Minisail! Perhaps a less isolated venue with easier courses for smaller boats, hell! you could even have the FOM!
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The problem dinghyists bring to an event is their heavy demand for space for trolleys and trailers plus as you've spotted, the windsurfers & kities like to party a bit, you know stay up late rather than a curry and off to bed. Also we get that unique thing you don't to our events.. Wimmen and the last thing we would want is an influx of beer mat coated buttocks, spots, ginger hair, beards, socks in sandals and wood botherers, to damn us by association with their imagery.

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Originally posted by iGRF

The problem dinghyists bring to an event is their heavy demand for space for trolleys and trailers plus as you've spotted, the windsurfers & kities like to party a bit, you know stay up late rather than a curry and off to bed. Also we get that unique thing you don't to our events.. Wimmen and the last thing we would want is an influx of beer mat coated buttocks, spots, ginger hair, beards, socks in sandals and wood botherers, to damn us by association with their imagery.

good point.... it was a duff idea.    LOL

Anyway, I've got my racing attire sorted for this year, something a little more action hero to match my new board.  Last year I was a Heineken bottle, bobbing along on a barn door of a thing. (That one made an appearance at the FOM once if I recall...  Wink)
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Originally posted by iGRF

the last thing we would want is an influx of beer mat coated buttocks, spots, ginger hair, beards, socks in sandals and wood botherers, to damn us by association with their imagery.


You forgot smocks.  
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How can you host a national water sports festival without dinghies there????
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They haven't got swimming or fishing either!
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