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Medway Maniac 
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 Topic: River SailingPosted: 01 Aug 14 at 12:04pm |
That's a big part of your life (to judge by your keenness on this forum) to give up.
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kneewrecker
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Posted: 01 Aug 14 at 12:16pm |
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Nope - just a year to let things settle down with the move (taking on some land, horses etc so time is going to be even more restrictive).
The biggest dilemma was giving up the early adopter benefit from Rodney on the D-Zero- that boat is truly lovely and I still want one eventually, but I need to be realistic about how many times it will be likely to get wet over the next 12 months. it felt awful saying I needed to put this on hold.... I think both Dan and Suntouched are genuinely on to something very interesting with that boat. I don't think I've heard of anyone who doesn't appreciate it in context for what it actually is - a performance 'beach boat'. If charter boats are available, this might be the better option for the odd class event... I know what will happen though once I charter one, best make sure I don't take any roof bars with me, or at least delete the internet banking app of my phone.
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JimC
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Posted: 01 Aug 14 at 12:47pm |
But how much more? Supposing you do 4 days of duties a year, that's two weeks of weekends, so roughly 1/24 of an FTE. If the club isn't paying starvation wages and is employing someone on a 5 day week. and making the assumption that cost of employment is roughly double headline wages then that could be 1500 quid. Which seems rather a lot, unless your club is for Russian and Middle Eastern businessmen. Mind with someone available to do maintenance 3 days a week the club ought to be in superb order... So the only way it can work is if the club can find income streams during the week or depend on part timers working weekends only, which makes it much harder.. Edited by JimC - 01 Aug 14 at 12:48pm |
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kneewrecker
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Posted: 01 Aug 14 at 12:55pm |
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Judging by the demographic around most sailing clubs, there are quite a few retired blokes (and women) who would be willing to take on an extra duty for £50 cash, or £50 off their own membership fee... that's the sort of levy I think folks in my position would be willing to pay, per duty if the duty requirements are typical 2 per annum.
I would even throw students and youth members into the equation. When I was 16 I could almost certainly have set a better course then than now, and would much rather earn £50 running some racing at my own sailing club than stacking shelves in One Stop.
Sure, folks could arrange this as a side deal within the boat park, but there would still be a certain tut-tutting element, not pulling your weight crap- which frankly makes the whole thing feel rather tawdry rather than pragmatic. |
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ASok
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Posted: 01 Aug 14 at 1:26pm |
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I couldn't agree more with Kneewrecker. Taking part in duties is a great idea and I really don't mind getting involved. However, pressures at certain phases of your life mean that you just can't dedicate time to that and would rather buy your way out.
I'm involved with growing a start-up company and my chosen sailing location was on the coast 1.5hrs away from me. In the end I wasn't using the boat, but still travelling down to fulfil a duty. Had to choose between family, work and sanity and gave the membership up and sold the boat. The locality of it all really appeals to me at the minute. I like the idea of using the river that's on my doorstep. It will mean changing my expectations of a day on the water, but going by some of the comments here its going to a different sort of fun. Personally, I think that's exciting me enough to start looking for another boat. |
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Roger
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Posted: 01 Aug 14 at 1:51pm |
That's exactly what our club offers, it's 2 OOD duties a year and opt out is £80.00 or £40.00 per duty, this is paid to members who can or wish to do extra, we have no staff just volunteer members. BTW you cannot opt out of being race officer which is a separate duty done by just those who race, you have to negotiate swops. |
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kneewrecker
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Posted: 01 Aug 14 at 2:29pm |
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sounds like a sensible club Roger!
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The Moo
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Posted: 01 Aug 14 at 8:04pm |
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Is there sufficient take up from the have nots to cover the duties of the haves? Does it create any ill feeling? I can't see it working in a very small club like ours where commitment is probably more important than cash.....
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JimC
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Posted: 01 Aug 14 at 8:57pm |
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Another disadvantage is that you are effectively dividing the club into those who contribute and those who don't, and the club will be at risk of being run solely by those who do, which is not healthy.
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craiggo
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Posted: 01 Aug 14 at 10:12pm |
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Totally agree Jim
 Edited by craiggo - 01 Aug 14 at 10:13pm |
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