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    Posted: 01 Aug 14 at 12:47pm
Originally posted by kneewrecker

an option to pay more and opt out of duties

But how much more? Supposing you do 4 days of duties a year, that's two weeks of weekends, so roughly 1/24 of an FTE. If the club isn't paying starvation wages and is employing someone on a 5 day week. and making the assumption that cost of employment is roughly double headline wages then that could be 1500 quid. Which seems rather a lot, unless your club is for Russian and Middle Eastern businessmen. Mind with someone available to do maintenance 3 days a week the club ought to be in superb order...

So the only way it can work is if the club can find income streams during the week or depend on part timers working weekends only, which makes it much harder..

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Nope - just a year to let things settle down with the move (taking on some land, horses etc so time is going to be even more restrictive).  

The biggest dilemma was giving up the early adopter benefit from Rodney on the D-Zero- that boat is truly lovely and I still want one eventually, but I need to be realistic about how many times it will be likely to get wet over the next 12 months.  it felt awful saying I needed to put this on hold.... I think both Dan and Suntouched are genuinely on to something very interesting with that boat.  I don't think I've heard of anyone who doesn't appreciate it in context for what it actually is - a performance 'beach boat'.

If charter boats are available, this might be the better option for the odd class event... I know what will happen though once I charter one, best make sure I don't take any roof bars with me, or at least delete the internet banking app of my phone.  LOL
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Originally posted by kneewrecker

As and when I get another dinghy (probably Autumn 2015 if my house move proceeds), I doubt I will rejoin any club.  

That's a big part of your life (to judge by your keenness on this forum) to give up.
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Originally posted by iGRF

Something I've always wanted to retire to, sailing a river, all those descriptions above, sound idyllic, I like sailing pretty much everywhere, I love our small lake as much as I love sailing the sea, but for different reasons, we have no rivers near here, but we do have a long term plan to maybe move up to the broads, some excellent river sailing up there.

I had some excellent sailing around Wroxham in oppies as a kid- in fact some of best results ever were there, I think the broads has very unique vibe- quietly competitive sailing, big emphasis on 'getting away from it all'.  

As for club membership - clubs need to move with the times, an option to pay more and opt out of duties would mean I would retain club membership at probably two sailing clubs in my locality.  When my free time is limited to maybe 10 weekend individual days a year, it's simply not worth losing 2 or 3 per club to do duties.  

It just doesn't stack up- hence why the nomadic nature of windsurfing suits my sailing requirements more currently.  As and when I get another dinghy (probably Autumn 2015 if my house move proceeds), I doubt I will rejoin any club.  


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Something I've always wanted to retire to, sailing a river, all those descriptions above, sound idyllic, I like sailing pretty much everywhere, I love our small lake as much as I love sailing the sea, but for different reasons, we have no rivers near here, but we do have a long term plan to maybe move up to the broads, some excellent river sailing up there.
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I have sailed at a small River club for the best part of 30 years now.  Why?  well simple really.  Its local and i have always been a member (farther is an old commodore)  I will always join no matter what happens with work, relocation etc.  I dont sail there much anymore, mainly because i prefered faster boats, but the attraction of a midweek adventure with my daughter is much more appealing than the bore of a midweek reach on a gravel pit.  We can sail for about 7 miles in one direction and can tak in pubs and some beautiful wildlife.  We can sail the graduate into a bank and have a picnic!  Furthermore without even dropping the mast and moving location we can have some very close and tactical racing.  I both love sailing on the river and hate it in the same breath!  Forget screaming reaches, it will never happen, you will go mad calling for water or from trying to understand why someone 4ft away from you has just picked up a gust.

Sailing on a river is to me what grass routes sailing is all about, the river clubs all have a strong and long history.  So much more soul than some of the little gravel pit clubs not too far away from us!
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I leave a thread alone for an afternoon and it descends into duties rants and the RYA!

Anyway, sounds likes its an appealing difference for those that have done it. I'm going to have a wander down at the weekend and have a chat to a few people. The big draw for me is having it within walking distance. That's going to be worth the membership alone, even if I have somewhere else to play further afield.   

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River sailing:

1976,  13yrs old. Mangy old Ent roll tacking, chasing convoys of motor cruisers and catching their wash. No wind, paddling home or swimming home towing the boat.

Getting sworn at and having bait thrown at me by danglers.

Almost getting rammed by rowing eights, manned by gorillas who are being screamed at by chimps and chased by loud blokes in tweed jackets in catamarran power boats.

Sudden wind fluctuations as it eddies between trees, and the lovely sound of a whole line of Ents, Merlins, Solos and OKs tied up to the landing stage just before the afternoon race.

Cream teas on the lawn and a short bike ride home.

I had a lot of fun and learnt a lot at my local club on the Thames, so it's definitely worth doing.

Later I moved to one of those concrete puddles in the Thames valley. Yes it was great to blast in my IC, but a concrete wall is a concrete wall and it even had danglers, so got bored with running around in circles and left sailing for a few years.

Now I sail on a river in the SW, it's almost the same, ferries, moored yachts, massive wind shifts, seals and salmon fishermen, but the danglers are nice to me and the rowing sculls and 4s are polite!

I guess some of us go back to what we enjoyed in our youth. Familiarity means a lot.




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Originally posted by winging it

Our neighbouring river club brought it's oppie fleet over for the day yesterday, so they could experience 'open water sailing'.  We are a kilometre square gravel pit.  Poor little things were a bit thrown by not having banks to determine when they should tack.
 

Still have that problem after learning to sail on a very narrow river at Warwick.


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Our neighbouring river club brought it's oppie fleet over for the day yesterday, so they could experience 'open water sailing'.  We are a kilometre square gravel pit.  Poor little things were a bit thrown by not having banks to determine when they should tack.
the same, but different...

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