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    Posted: 23 Jul 14 at 4:23pm
I was 9. Did some cadet sailing, bu mostly was at the front end of boats with adults helming.

Have to say, I'm not sure it would be anything like 20% who carry on, but with those who do and those who come into sailing later, there are plenty of enthusiastic sailors around. Never been convinced that actual numbers participating matter - there will always be people out there who love sailing, so it will never vanish as a sport, so I just like how many people who do sail let it take over their lives. More so than many other sports, I'd guess.
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Originally posted by Rupert

 Never been convinced that actual numbers participating matter - 

in the grand scheme of things, I reckon you are quite right  Big smile

in the short-term, if a few clubs fold or can't find the people to run them on a day to day basis, then so what... a bit a concentration might not be a bad thing.
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I have to file a participation report every month so we can receive some RYA funding.  Things are very healthy here right now, including some coming back after finishing at uni.  But there are four smallish clubs within a short distance if each other, and I know our near neighbours are not all faring so well.  To some large extent it is natural selection, of a sort; we provide lots of activities for our members, plus lots of opportunities to learn to race, so we are doing our best to ensure survival.
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Coming back to the YOUF events that started this thread,
though not popular with some, junior/youth training/racing and the dreaded squads do engage many young sailors more than just trailing round at the back or sitting in the front of a parents boat at their home clubs.
I am often surprised to find strong reluctance by some parents when I suggest taking their kids to a local event, is it fear of the unknown?
I accept that squads pull active parents away and stop them sailing, but for most it is temporary and I for one will return much older but a bit wiser and am confident that my offspring will stay connected with sailing in one way or another.
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Wrong about what now? No, probably not.

Sounds like my help yesterday is working Jenna's up from 20th to laying 4th overall.

Nothing wrong in teaching kids to sail and enjoy a team spirited event, what's wrong is something within the squad system that traumatises them making them give up for good.

Biggest mistake they've made recently is laying off the Windsurfing Team Fifteen Lady, a total tragedy.

As to the rest of it, you've got to respect all the unsung heroes over there, thanklessly getting on with the job of shepherding them about and organising the event, especially in this day and age of CRB checks, elf n safety and whatever.
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The NSSA is an amazing event, suitable for those that have never raced outside their own club to those that compete regularly at events all sailing in their events during the day and brought together in the evening to be kids and have a great time. Socialising with all ages it is a great event.

We went to Bass last year, our clubs first event, and had a fantastic time. Shame yesterdays racing had to be cancelled and todays all comers was binned too. Lets hope they can get racing tomorrow.

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As yet none of our ex squad members have stopped sailing.  
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Personal experience wing wang, my eldest, she beat Bryony Shaw in her first Nationals to win, then went onto the RYA Squad, did one weekend with them has never windsurfed since and wouldn't tell me what happened. I respected her wishes, but have always wondered.

Jenna, she's not a squaddie but probably beating lots that are.

If you want to train winners, you have to separate them from the system, all squads do is develop hierarchical duck pond mentality.

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Originally posted by iGRF

Personal experience wing wang, my eldest, she beat Bryony Shaw in her first Nationals to win, then went onto the RYA Squad, did one weekend with them has never windsurfed since and wouldn't tell me what happened. I respected her wishes, but have always wondered.

Jenna, she's not a squaddie but probably beating lots that are.

If you want to train winners, you have to separate them from the system, all squads do is develop hierarchical duck pond mentality.

You do make me laugh.....so the squads haven't produced the most medalled olympic sailor of all time, his mate with the star medals etc etc.  Chamging history as well as the laws of physics are we?  But I liked the thrust of your original piece. 
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The system that did so well on its home waters recently and the medal won there was dubious by any knowledgable persons reasoning. The Aussies handed us our arse.


All our system had was money and resources once that's equalled good old fashioned tactical training matched and beat it.
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