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    Posted: 19 Jun 14 at 3:08pm
Originally posted by Chris 249


[On form you will just abuse someone no matter what I write about the way it sailed and was built, so I don't think I'll bother.</span>


Well on form as usual you come across as exactly the type I'd imagine in the sort of Laser racing described, so I won't miss anything will I?

For the record I've seen the way it's built close up, which is fine, my real issue was the windward foiling threshold which I suspect is quite high, wind power wise. No matter, they who are supposed to promote it are just as reticent to say.
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Originally posted by blaze720



Many of us remember what the Laser was 'in the day'.  It was totally dominant and we would argue that it helped dinghy sailing along.  It could still be there .....      



On the other hand, 473 Lasers entered thus far for the 2014 Laser Masters Worlds in October in Hyeres, a new record, would indicate yet another growth area in Laser sailing.

http://www.regattanetwork.com/clubmgmt/applet_registrant_list.php?regatta_id=8404&custom_report_id=134

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I wish people would stop introducing fact and figures into these arguments. It spoils everything. What we want is self opinionated correspondents and raw prejudice. 

Masters sailing? A load of short sighted geriatrics unable to grasp new ideas and wedded to out of date craft that take them back to their youth. So very sad.

There you go.......

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Originally posted by iiitick

Masters sailing? A load of short sighted geriatrics unable to grasp new ideas and wedded to out of date craft that take them back to their youth. So very sad.

There you go.......


n'ah we need some added sectarianism and nationalistic price.... it's trending worldwide on Twitter, and in Iraq....

So to kick it off.... 

UK entrants to Worlds Laser Masters = not good enough for Top 10 in the Solo Fleet
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The big question I'd be asking myself if I were involved with running the Laser Association in the UK is why are our Champs so badly attended compared to other classes and what can we do about it.p
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Post Options Post Options   Quote GarethT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jun 14 at 6:22pm
Is it that bad? The masters have a separate event, the lighter sailors have a separate rig. I don't think the numbers are too shabby. Perhaps not where they were back in the day, but there's a lot more choice now.
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Many of us remember what the Laser was 'in the day'.  It was totally dominant and we would argue that it helped dinghy sailing along.  It could still be there .....  

Ok I stand corrected ... there is absolutely nothing wrong with the Laser, never was never will be  .. it is only just coming into its prime age now and the 'first wave' back in the day was just that a pre-curser for the rest of its 1000 year reign .....   Can't be improved so no point trying. 

No point polishing it or even daring to suggest a bit of polishing might help whatsoever.  In fact you can't really polish ..... er .... what is it ... 'perfection' can you ?   Wink

Mike L.  (obviously far too old for that 7th Laser .... )

     
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Of course it could be improved. I'm trying to understand why there is a need to though. Would the benefits (to new sales) outweigh the costs (to existing owners)?

The C2 rig is clearly better than the original Byte rig. Has it improved the fortunes of the Byte as a class in the UK?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote iiitick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jun 14 at 9:50pm
Originally posted by GarethT

Of course it could be improved. I'm trying to understand why there is a need to though. Would the benefits (to new sales) outweigh the costs (to existing owners)?

The C2 rig is clearly better than the original Byte rig. Has it improved the fortunes of the Byte as a class in the UK?

No. Hopefully Hartley marketing will help things out. Since the RYA will not adopt the boat but insist on supporting L***ser it struggles for a niche. Popular in the rest of the World for youth but here just small people most of whom love it.

It causes me great frustration!!!!

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Originally posted by iiitick

Popular in the rest of the World for youth

Lets not exaggerate mate. Fairly popular in some of the rest of the world would be more accurate. I note that both 2015 and 2016 youth worlds are being sailed in Radials, and the overall ISAF report lists the following NAs with the UK being among the bigger ones.

(1) USA 45
(2) Brazil 35
(3) Singapore 130
(4) United Kingdom 45
(5) Italy 30
(6) Australia 20

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