Jammer Question.

   Tell me kind folk is there such a thing as a jamming cleat that works in both directions?

I've finally sorted my wing wang and it features a continuous rope which at the moment is cleated on both sides, it would be less time consuming if it could be cleated centrally if such a device existed.

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iGRF Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499	Post Options Post Reply Quote iGRF Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Jammer Question. Posted: 03 Jun 14 at 11:22am
	Tell me kind folk is there such a thing as a jamming cleat that works in both directions? I've finally sorted my wing wang and it features a continuous rope which at the moment is cleated on both sides, it would be less time consuming if it could be cleated centrally if such a device existed.
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Null Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 May 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 745	Post Options Post Reply Quote Null Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 03 Jun 14 at 11:30am
	Is it not cleated both sides as its actually two separate controls? cant see how a single line would work ? Perhaps draw us a picture of the current system Grumpf

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	musto skiff kicker swivel jammer- led out to the racks?

winging it Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 22 Mar 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3958	Post Options Post Reply Quote winging it Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 03 Jun 14 at 11:57am
	My contender kicker goes through a Jammer like above then has a split tail hoping out to each wire. Pretty much the same as the musto.
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Delta Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 09 May 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 20	Post Options Post Reply Quote Delta Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 03 Jun 14 at 12:10pm
	The Jiffy Jib Jam Cleat circa 1960's as used by the Snipe sailors of that time. Just got to find an old Snipe sailor that kept the old gear. Always wondered why other classes never used it apart from the dangers to the crews undercarriage whilst fast tacking.
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Medway Maniac Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788	Post Options Post Reply Quote Medway Maniac Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 03 Jun 14 at 12:14pm
	Is the Alto wing-wang not like that of the 400, wherein you can haul and cleat it to either extreme position? In which case can you not just centre the pole using the line on one side, then tighten up the other line to keep the pole central. Mark the control lines if you want to do it without looking/consistently.
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iGRF Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499	Post Options Post Reply Quote iGRF Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 03 Jun 14 at 12:33pm
	In order to function you have to uncleat the downwind side then pull on the upwind side and cleat it off. You (I) then forget to cleat the downwind side, later on you gybe, pole collapses to leeward and is very difficult to haul back underway. One do it all cleat would solve all that. Uncleat pull one way then cleat, next tack uncleat pull the other way. Actually come to think of it I may have thought of another flaw in the suggestion when needing the pole to be centred. Edited by iGRF - 03 Jun 14 at 12:33pm
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Null Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 May 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 745	Post Options Post Reply Quote Null Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 03 Jun 14 at 1:04pm
	I dont think you can do it Graeme, both lines need to be independent i think (without seeing the system i cant be sure) but in order for one cleat you need 1 line.

Medway Maniac Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788	Post Options Post Reply Quote Medway Maniac Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 03 Jun 14 at 1:21pm
	It could be done, and I have the germ of an idea, but need to check exactly how the Alto is currently set up to see if it can easily be adapted. I'll have a look next time I'm at the club.
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MattK Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 02 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 221	Post Options Post Reply Quote MattK Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 03 Jun 14 at 2:05pm
	I sailed a swallow once which had a traveller that did what you want, the top of the traveller car could rock back and forth, so as the tension came on one side when you pulled the line it uncleated the other due to the angle change, but then settled flat so both were cleated when not in motion, i believe it was a custom job, but what you want is possible, i have seen it in reality