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    Posted: 29 May 14 at 10:08am
Originally posted by frow3n

exams have meant we haven't done events in the 29er but boat handling is sorted. I have sailed an 800 quite a few times so twin trapeze helming isn't a problem. Also attempted a musto a few times. The 29er we've been sailing for a year and haven't capsized all that much. About 5 times in total I believe.

Racing is what we'd prefer to do 

Well I can't but help think you'd be better off turning that boat handling into results.

I14 racing is limited unless you sail in Chichester Harbour ... or travel a lot and I am guessing you are not going to be driving your I14 all over the UK to find another boat to race against.
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exams have meant we haven't done events in the 29er but boat handling is sorted. I have sailed an 800 quite a few times so twin trapeze helming isn't a problem. Also attempted a musto a few times. The 29er we've been sailing for a year and haven't capsized all that much. About 5 times in total I believe.

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How have you got on with the 29er?

What are your results like?

The I14 is a beast compared to a 29er in terms of the power ... it will also be considerably more expensive to maintain.

Are you wanting to race or just blast around?
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The main reason to be fit for both is climbing back in I found!
Also good front crawl speed helps.Please note much better to try at your age than unfit and over 50.
I tried one for a year with not very experienced crew challenging in many ways especially sailing in solent chop. But we had a lot of laughs.
We had an early Bieker 2 which was not easy to sail before the winged rudder.
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What's going to help A LOT, is if you are AEROBICALLY FIT. If you're not I wouldn't bother until you are. It's not that you need to be super fit to sail a i14, but when you are learning it's going to make a hell of a difference. Especially for your forward hand.
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Agree with dan above, our old 14 didn't burn through rope at all.  Kite halyard blocks, yes! But that was probably down to the standard block specification.  We had our fair share of breakages but nothing really major to be honest.  
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interestingly enough I've always been quite the 'tinkerer.' I'm often inclined to doing boat work after a sail and although there isn't much to do on a laser I always like adjusting settings ect. Therefore it seems like an i14 might suit me. 
Obviously there's the overpowered part in comparison to a 29er but we have only been overpowered very rarely. Manoeuvres we have pretty much nailed. The international 14 does seem like it could be a bit of a learning curve but I've twin trapeze helmed before in an 800. Seems like I might be able to handle it. 

Is there anyone near QM who could give a trial sail at all to my crew?

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It must be said, as long as your i14 is set up ok i.e no chafe points and the blocks all work, then it needn't chew a lot of rope.
You can of course spend a kings ransom on various development stuff if you are that way inclined. Not too many do though.
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Every year at my club, a couple of keen young blokes (usually wearing bandanas and Oakleys) turn up with a "BARGAIN" i14 then proceed to amuse the old farts drinking tea on the terrace by failing to sail it out of the bay.  After a few attempts it's consigned to the boat park.  Which is one reason I guess that they're good value.

Nothing like a 29er surely, which though wobbly is a fairly basic low-power youth boat.

My friend hollandsd of this forum reckons his i14 nearly bankrupt him due to its continual hunger for new ropes!

FANTASTIC boats mind and look totally brilliant fun - watching Sam Pascoe screaming his 14 upwind at Sailfest last year was a thing of joy.  Go for it, but try before you buy (and try where not too many old farts are watching  Wink)
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As for tips, the main difference from the 29er is tuning options- basically try to ignore that once you have got a good base set. Apart from that its learning how to use the tfoil - which in principle is quite a straightforward thing. Daggers are long and you only have it all the way down in the light.
Just standard HP / skiff techniques.
Closest to training at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_9KJGEp76I
also look up "penman14" on youtube
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