i14 compared to 29er?

   Plenty of guys in 50s and some in 60s helming 14s competitively, often with sons and indeed daughters crewing.
Its probs fair to say that most of those guys aren't going to be doing ironman triathalons any time soon either. As long as you can get on and off the boat, and get in it after a capsize you are ok - physical demands on 14 helm are pretty minimal in normal sailing!

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Daniel Holman Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 17 Nov 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 997	Post Options Post Reply Quote Daniel Holman Report Post Quote Reply Topic: i14 compared to 29er? Posted: 24 May 14 at 2:10pm
	Plenty of guys in 50s and some in 60s helming 14s competitively, often with sons and indeed daughters crewing. Its probs fair to say that most of those guys aren't going to be doing ironman triathalons any time soon either. As long as you can get on and off the boat, and get in it after a capsize you are ok - physical demands on 14 helm are pretty minimal in normal sailing!

getafix Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 28 Mar 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2143	Post Options Post Reply Quote getafix Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 24 May 14 at 6:41am
	....go sailing in an i14, then you'll buy one and be able to store that experience for the rest of your sailing life, I have, it was brilliant, and when my boy gets old enough and IF I am still fit enough, I'm going back for sure!

frow3n Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 14 Aug 12 Location: London Online Status: Offline Posts: 95	Post Options Post Reply Quote frow3n Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 20 May 14 at 8:20pm
	They certainly look very good value for money. More so than the 49er. I also like the fact is quite a bit smaller... 49er just looks like a pain to manoeuvre around the boat park! Any tips for sailing the 14? youtube videos don't give much of an indication!
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Daniel Holman Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 17 Nov 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 997	Post Options Post Reply Quote Daniel Holman Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 20 May 14 at 12:35pm
	Dave is bang on. If you have the skiff sailing principles nailed in a 29er then same rules apply with the 14, there is just a smaller lighter hull, much bigger sails esp kite, and usually more string. And second trap. More of a pain to launch than a 29er because of the rudder and it'll rip your face off if you don't pay it respect in breeze but in light and med breezes it will be a class apart from the 29er. 150kg is just fine. Splicing/general boatwork skills help. There is a b4 in particular on the market that is outrageous value - you'd have to be a) very very good and b) spend at least 3 times more to see any improvement at all on that boat. Boats themselves generally very robust. World champ boat now 8yrs old I believe. Friendly class who drink beer afterwards not cyclists drinks. Get involved!

dynamicsails Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Newbie Joined: 26 Feb 10 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 9	Post Options Post Reply Quote dynamicsails Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 20 May 14 at 11:07am
	there are 14s about that are great value and would provide a lot of bang for buck on the second hand market, so long as you can splice rope and replace the fittings now and then to compare the 29er to the 14 is a big diffrence, similar to sail in theory you have one extra trapeeze the 14 will have a massive amount more power to control, in just 7-10 knots you are twin wiring and 10 upwards your de-powering, at your weight of 150 is about the lightest competiive weight, there are lighter we had a world champ at 145. So long as you know what your getting into the 14 is a top boat even for club sailing and blasting about! the best way into a fourteen and know what its about is try crewing one, email me your expericance and contact details and I'll see if some one is short on crew one week end dave@dynamicsails.com

frow3n Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 14 Aug 12 Location: London Online Status: Offline Posts: 95	Post Options Post Reply Quote frow3n Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 20 May 14 at 10:52am
	boat for club sailing and doing occasional events. we've sailed the 29er for a year and we're good with the boat handling ect. but we're just too heavy for it. All up weight is probably 140-150 kgs Design we're looking at is the Bieker 4 Edited by frow3n - 20 May 14 at 10:52am
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Null Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 May 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 745	Post Options Post Reply Quote Null Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 20 May 14 at 10:50am
	Depends on the design of the 14. Difficult is a relative term, its not a fair comparison a 29er is a single trapeze boat, that broadly seems to be a youth class. The 14 is...Well not. What do you want the boat for? Club Sailing, Blasting about? doing the 14 worlds and POW? How long have you sailed the 29er? and what is your all up weight? Or if you want a more accurate answer. a 14 is exactly 302.443% harder to sail than a 29er

frow3n Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 14 Aug 12 Location: London Online Status: Offline Posts: 95	Post Options Post Reply Quote frow3n Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 20 May 14 at 10:13am
	Hi, as the next boat in the saga we're considering an international 14. Now my question is, how difficult are the 14s to sail in comparison to the 29er? It would be a newer boat with a T-Foil if that helps. Thanks in advance
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