PY changes for 2014

I've been out all evening, at my clubs committee meeting. I come back and check emails and check in here to find you lot all whinging about stuff that will actually have no real impact on your sailing.
I'll tell you what ruins good sport, whingers!

FFS, just learn to sail your boats properly, enjoy it and get a grip! Once you've accomplished that, then try learning to read and listen, that way you will have the necessary skills to understand the texts clearly stating how PYS works, and maybe you'll listen to Bas and Andy when they do talks at clubs.

Originally posted by craiggo I've been out all evening, at my clubs committee meeting. I come back and check emails and check in here to find you lot all whinging about stuff that will actually have no real impact on your sailing. I'll tell you what ruins good sport, whingers! FFS, just learn to sail your boats properly, enjoy it and get a grip! Once you've accomplished that, then try learning to read and listen, that way you will have the necessary skills to understand the texts clearly stating how PYS works, and maybe you'll listen to Bas and Andy when they do talks at clubs.

How about separating coastal clubs data from lake/reservoir data and seeing if a separate sea and inland py would be much different?

As much as I have faith in the integrity of the volunteers, like JimC and the other volunteers, I even think the RYA bods probably are well intentioned enough, but I'm given to understand there is a computer involved, it's also now my understanding that it is programmed to remove the back end, it is also fed with data from clubs or events running high end competitions, so quite naturally it is spitting out ever faster results for popular boats of the moment and or boats that are new like the Icon and have unfortunately chosen to turf up at restricted venues that post regular data into the machine.

What is not happening is someone with the knowledge and Balls to say 'wait a minute, that can't be right lets look at it again, do we really want to upset such and such a class by being slaves to imbalanced data.'

The proof of that is exactly the Alto, it's been around now since 2007, it's been raced all over the place at all sorts of venues, high and low profile, yet only now 7 years later has it shown up on the 'experimental' list, I don't even care why, but immediately it's wrong, they've positioned it within a point or two of a 505 a very similar boat with square yards more canvas and at least 5% more speed on all points of sailing.

There should be people on that committee that know stuff like this to overrule the stats, otherwise what is the point of having a committee, we might as well just have a website automated to spit out the random crap we seem to be getting now.

Originally posted by Steve411 Trying to improve PNs is killing our sport... http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/174733/Solo-beats-835

Originally posted by Y&Y Thanks to the Great Lakes Group, who do the number crunching to develop a set of PY handicap numbers that produce such tight and fair racing for a wide range of classes. They now have more than 4,800 winter series race results to use for analysing the data.

Originally posted by iGRF Which is why all our coastal handicap ratings are screwed up

Edited by iGRF - 28 Feb 14 at 8:47am