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    Posted: 25 Feb 14 at 9:12pm
That picture looks like an opportunity for Laser dominoes!
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Originally posted by craiggo

I want the dinghy park to be inside!

Keep the boats rigged and assuming people shut the door, less chance of storm damage, and you wouldnt need to tie your boat down.

Time to build a barn!

A club in Portugal that I visited for one event had exactly that, plus 'hired hands' to put the boats in there for you.  And that was a year after they had had their revolution!  The benefits of a class-ridden society, provided you're in the right class of course (and I'm not talking dinghies!).
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'95 Laser II Nationals (I met my wife there!) at Plymouth we just pulled the 80+ boats up the seaplane slipway and parked them in the hanger at Mountbatten. Ease the halyards, hoist up your wetsuit to dry and get out on the pop!
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Originally posted by craiggo

I want the dinghy park to be inside!

Keep the boats rigged and assuming people shut the door, less chance of storm damage, and you wouldnt need to tie your boat down.

Time to build a barn!

Just the arrangement which was (is?) available at Calshot activity centre, you just wheeled your boat into the ex WW2 'flying boat' aircraft hangers and you could leave it fully rigged.
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Originally posted by jeffers

Originally posted by laser193713

Oh right, tell that to any laser sailor. Their boat had been stacked on its end for months before they even got hold of it! 



Slightly different....would you want you boat being moved by others so they can get theirs out? Whois liable if they damage it whilst doing so? 

At least that is a factory environment where they will show some modicum of care when they move things around.

I wouldn't be so sure about that either!  LOL

Originally posted by yellowwelly

they're not lasers, they're torches....

No, these are definitely lasers!  LOL

The best thing about laser sailors is that they for some reason believe that the strip of red tape that comes across the transom of the boat is there for a reason. People get scratches in it and take it off and replace it. Some even replace the red with black, sometimes pink, depending on their taste. In fact it was only there to protect their boat while it was parked on its end in a warehouse!  LOL
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Originally posted by laser193713

 
I wouldn't be so sure about that either!  LOL


I was sure when I collected my brand spanking new one (many years ago), I went over it very carefully to make sure it was in a condition I was happy to accept.

A mate of mine rejected his because it has been dropped at some point and had stress cracks all over it.
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Originally posted by laser193713

The best thing about laser sailors is that they for some reason believe that the strip of red tape that comes across the transom of the boat is there for a reason. People get scratches in it and take it off and replace it. Some even replace the red with black, sometimes pink, depending on their taste. In fact it was only there to protect their boat while it was parked on its end in a warehouse!  LOL
The strip on my Laser II was black, and the (Dutch) Laser dealer actually advised me to leave it on for protection from random knocks.  I was happy to comply, if only because it broke up the otherwise boring all-white (OK, 'grey') appearance.

I liked the matt-black tail panels that 1970's Triumph Dolomites used to sport.  I guess that was the inspiration for some dinghy owners to paint their transoms matt black.  Never did it myself, but I thought it looked good - contrasting topsides/transom.



c.f. single colour variant introduced to save cost:




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Originally posted by craiggo

I want the dinghy park to be inside!

Keep the boats rigged and assuming people shut the door, less chance of storm damage, and you wouldnt need to tie your boat down.

Time to build a barn!
How about a huge underground "barn" with a lift system (a bit like on aircraft carriers)? With doors to the lift area? Warm, dry, keep the sails up, spacious etc? Gets round the windshadow probelm, opens up a whole load more...
 
Or, to get round the windshadow issue, roof over the lake (yeah, something the size of Grafham, why nott? Shut up anyone who shouts "structural engineering"), stick a windfarm on the roof and use this to help power the fans, lighting, air and water heating. Year round boardies and rash vest weather, never a day when sailing is blown off/too little wind.
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ground source pump for hot showers.... hot showers at grafham, that'd be a first.
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the 'solution' I had in mind looked more like a two-tier structure with ramp(s) to the first "floor" so boats can be layed out next to each other in a row below and horizontally or (if there's enough real estate) in a row above, allowing effectively double the density of boats in much the same space as before albeit that the ramp(s) would take up previously usable space.  It would be best utilised by boats that can be parked without the mast up, at least on the bottom row.  

The alternative may be a more simple racking system with a manual forklift for getting boats out of the middle or upper rack levels with the minimum of people needing to be involved.  You could pay least for upper and middle levels and most for bottom level, that way the dedicated "come down and sail whenever" crowd could pay for the bottom level - just pull your boat out and go - and those happier to sail when others may be around to help on the middle and upper levels.
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