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yellowwelly 
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 Topic: PY changes for 2014Posted: 25 Feb 14 at 12:55pm |
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I'm guessing it's a forum wind-up from 2547 there.... how many mothies do you know who even bother launching in less than marginal foiling. TBH- they all seem fairly relaxed about their lack of competitiveness in very light winds.
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Telltale
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Posted: 25 Feb 14 at 1:25pm |
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Are we allowed personal vendetta's ? Here is an interesting trend for Mr Fuller.
2008 WANDERER 1132 2010 WANDERER 1139 2012 WANDERER 1144 2013 WANDERER 1150 I wonder what this years will be???? |
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Rupert
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Posted: 25 Feb 14 at 1:28pm |
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Watching Wanderer V's GP14 on a regular basis a few years ago, the Wanderer was never as quick, despite a similar handicap, so maybe the change was needed? Admittedly, one example isn't representative, but it shows there may be a reason.
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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jeffers
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Posted: 25 Feb 14 at 1:41pm |
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Looking here: http://www.rya.org.uk/racing/Pages/portsmouthyardstick.aspx reveals that some13 clubs have already submitted a return (I am guessing using the 'old' method. One name does stick out, Hayling Island not using the PY Online site. The other clubs appear to be relatively small.
There is a much bigger list of clubs using the PY Online to submit data (including Hunts, kudos to the Sailing Sec for getting this sorted). I wonder how this compares to previous years. Perhaps The sail racer/PY online people who lurk here can enlighten us?
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Paul
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getafix
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Posted: 25 Feb 14 at 1:45pm |
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this forum lacks a "vote here to kill this thread" button
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Time Lord
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Joined: 03 Dec 13 Location: Warwickshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 301 |
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Posted: 25 Feb 14 at 3:14pm |
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What I want to know is why we have to wait until the beginning of March to get these figures / guesses? The RYA appears to be stuck in the era when one didn't put one's boat in the water until after Easter! For many, the new season starts at the beginning of March.
And for my final contribution, the PN numbers are biased towards sea sailing / large open water clubs where you have a chance of sailing any boat nearer to its predicated handicap performance on the long legs used whereas us on inland round the cans with the multitude of windshifts on each leg have little chance to reach this ideal. |
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transient
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Posted: 25 Feb 14 at 3:28pm |
Most of the Data comes from inland clubs so by it's very nature it's generally more accurate for them. Tide and waves are the factors that make the figures an issue on coastal venues. |
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jeffers
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Posted: 25 Feb 14 at 3:49pm |
Many clubs don't actually stop sailing over the winter these days...... At Hunts we have 2 weekends of no racing where we have work parties at the end of February but aside from that we sail all year round. Often getting our biggest turnouts for the Winter series.
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Paul
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gordon1277
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Posted: 25 Feb 14 at 3:54pm |
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The Phantom to go back to 1047 (as it was when I first bought one)and prove it was all a horrible mistake the drop to 1012.
Now I am not sailing a very tired wood boat with needlespar rig that might be a little unfair! Only Joking |
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Gordon
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jeffers
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Posted: 25 Feb 14 at 4:51pm |
This is perfectly reasonable for a 'classic' Phantom and we do have criteria for this at Hunts. When they raced as a fleet though it was boat on boat. (I know your tongue was firmly in your cheek but there are a fair few older boats still out there sailing).
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Paul
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