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getafix ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Mar 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2143 |
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I don't think there's that much need for excessive hand-wringing over a fall of classes listed in the PY figures or not. Are there as many cricket bat makers as there was 30 yrs ago? Are there as many brands of football boots available? In any market, where there isn't 1 or 2 dominant suppliers, then periods of start-ups followed by consolidation are just part and parcel of the 'business' side of the sport.
Some classes may have relied on 'craftsmen' to keep them alive, others more related to a particular commercial body. As these come and go, there will be changes. Technology and materials move on too, so some classes are bound to go by the wayside. What's interesting, to me at least, is to see the classes that have survived and embraced new technology (e.g. MRs, N12s, i14s) versus those that survive despite "potentially better" alternatives being available..... the well trodden path of "racing quality is more important than having a good sail to me".
There's plenty of open water around, pretty much everyone is within an 1-2hrs drive of some, so higher performance, higher-speed, isn't necessarily limited by availability of places to sail, more by cost and complication as a barrier to entry, IMO. Boat park space is a PITA, the guys who come up with an affordable stacking system for sailing clubs allowing more boats in less space, will become heroes of 21st century dinghy sailing in the UK. |
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yellowwelly ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 May 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2003 |
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au contraire... it was the best built boat I have owned & I absolutely adored the HD sail. It offers excellent racing- locally at 4 clubs to my knowledge, a local circuit and a national one with plenty of championships that seem only too happy to welcome everyone from either end of the talent spectrum. I simply found that it was a bit too frustrating in very light winds on the long reaching legs we get on our courses. The fact that I hate light wind drifting, combined with being 20kg over the real max for inland sailing one, it wasn't a good combo. I guess if given a fair chance at 'swings and roundabouts' it would be less of an issue, however it was only swings, because as soon as 14 knots of roundabout blows in, I'd rather be on my boards. So given that I was only going to use it in 8-14 knot breeze, (<8 knots and a windsport is pointless imho), it seemed a bit extravagant to hang on to it and all the bullsh*t that comes with it- insurance, club membership fees, 'duties' etc.
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pondlife1736 ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 17 Jan 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 106 |
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Prejudice, prejudice............... ![]() This is sailing as god intended: Light wind=monohull dinghy Medium wind=catamaran Strong wind=windsurfer Jetskis should only be used in winds less than 1 knot, never in the UK, and never anywhere you may be recognised. Apart from that, they're fine.
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yellowwelly ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 May 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2003 |
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![]() I'd leave him out of it... he was fairly prejudiced towards single handers no matter what their mode of power. Didn't you wonder why the Griffin and Unicorn never made it?
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Surely going in 2x2 was as doublehanded as you can get?
Elephants in the Flying Dutchman, squirrels in the Mirror - the world's first handicap race. |
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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yellowwelly ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 May 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2003 |
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And this is sailing after a Faustian Pact... here, in Cornwall, England only a few weeks ago:
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yellowwelly ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 May 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2003 |
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do you think they were still bitchin' about PY, or did Noah adjust locally?
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Te Unicorns and the Griffins did - they were sailing the Laser 2 and the Hornet, by the way - so God sank them.
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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yellowwelly ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 May 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2003 |
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I thought the Phoenix were aboard the Laser 2, it came back from the flames as a V3000 only to burn out a few days later.
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pondlife1736 ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 17 Jan 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 106 |
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Unicorns sail unicorns surely ?
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