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    Posted: 09 Oct 13 at 12:46pm
Osteopaths are a split from Chriopractic that likes to think that they are more medical- they (almost all) stick to just spinal complaints (unlike chiros that reckon they can fix asthma, diabetes etc)
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It's not excluded that one sails a K1, but in my experience they manipulate your back by getting you into back-breaking wrestling holds then leaning on you, which is extremely worrying (and one reason I didn't go back for further visits, I now recall).

But I'm surprised that they and osteopaths don't hang about Finn events hoping to pick up patients.
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As we are massively off thread already - what does an Osteopath do? (however you spell it)
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I heard also they can do some serious nerve damage... but I dunno, I never used one.
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Felt decidedly dangerous to me.  I was worried my chiropractor (a huge Dutchman named Van Beest!) was going to break my back.  I gather it can cause wear on the joints if you indulge too often.
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Originally posted by alstorer

Originally posted by tgruitt

Originally posted by alstorer

Especially as chiros are quacks whose treatment is based entirely on a fictional account of how biology works.


Care to explain?
Chiro is based on the theory that everything that can go wrong on the body is because misalignments in the spine. They call these "subluxations". Subluxations do not exist.

Manipulating the spine is potentially useful for lower back problems, but nothing else. It would be better done by someone with medical training. Chiropractors have had pseudo-medical training.


Even if it doesn't exist and is a placebo, if it makes you feel better then don't you think it's good?
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Originally posted by SUGmeister

Maybe the differentiation should be between dinghy and yacht and not dinghy and keelboat. Clearly a flying fifteen is not a yacht even though it shares a keel, an E22 maybe 30 ft long but again you might struggle to actually define it as a yacht whereas say a J24 clearly is a yacht.

Back in the 60s Redwings had horrendously heavy centreboards and no trapeze, they were never yachts or keelboats, between then and now they got rid of the steel centreboard and added a trapeze.

A K1 should be defined as a dinghy, bracket ballasted close brackets.



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Post Options Post Options   Quote alstorer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Oct 13 at 9:24pm
Originally posted by tgruitt

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Especially as chiros are quacks whose treatment is based entirely on a fictional account of how biology works.


Care to explain?
Chiro is based on the theory that everything that can go wrong on the body is because misalignments in the spine. They call these "subluxations". Subluxations do not exist.

Manipulating the spine is potentially useful for lower back problems, but nothing else. It would be better done by someone with medical training. Chiropractors have had pseudo-medical training.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Mark Jardine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Oct 13 at 8:43pm
Originally posted by jeffers

Laser Stratos Keel....clearly a dinghy with a ballasted board to help keep it the right way up......

What about a Finn? I seem to recall they have heavy metal boards...

Dare I even mention the Bosun?......

Personally I class the Flying Fifteen, K1 et al as dinghies.


I've spent a lot of time scratching my head on some of the crossover classes. I put the Extreme 40's, AC45's and AC72's in the keelboat section, when they clearly don't have keels!

Without doubt it is a subjective view.

The Bosun though is a dinghy! Don't diss the Bosun - I won the nationals in them about 23 years ago! Beat Steve Cockerill too!
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Originally posted by alstorer

Especially as chiros are quacks whose treatment is based entirely on a fictional account of how biology works.

In hindsight, I sort of agree.  

But I went to one recommended to me after putting my back out launching a boat (never stand beside the boat and try to move it by twisting your body!) and he fixed the problem in one visit.  

Like all 'private' practitioners he wanted me to go back for repeat visits, but I avoided that trap. 


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