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    Posted: 14 Jun 13 at 12:22pm
Originally posted by yellowwelly

Originally posted by Rupert

Surely they would just ride uninsured, same as loads of car drivers?

I'm sure they would, but at least then they could be prosecuted and given community service... maybe washing the buses for the bus w**kers.

Why would you punish a cyclist without insurance more harshly than a car driver without insurance?
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Originally posted by JohnW

This could change the game totally if they catch on

The flying pushbike - but with no more than 5 mins battery... So we can look forward to pedalcyclists attempting to fly over red traffic lights and running out of battery and crash landing right in front of a moving bus or lorry...


And when they crash, they get a propeller blade straight through them, propelled by the lorry.

It looks like a wonderful toy, but the bike on ET was better.
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Originally posted by bustinben

Originally posted by yellowwelly

Originally posted by Rupert

Surely they would just ride uninsured, same as loads of car drivers?

I'm sure they would, but at least then they could be prosecuted and given community service... maybe washing the buses for the bus w**kers.

Why would you punish a cyclist without insurance more harshly than a car driver without insurance?



In an ideal world I wouldn't.  But driving without insurance is usually met with a 6 point penalty and a hefty fine.  As cyclists don't have a points based licence, and are obviously too poor to drive a motorcar, it seems ludicrous to penalise them financially and attempt to 'ban' them riding again.

Far better that they performed some civic service... maybe like clearing up dog sh*t in the park.
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Ha ha ha ha LMAO, who is going to arrest all these un-insured 'dangerous' roadies? 

...the super-cops who arrest all the w*nkers in the middle lane of motorways constantly, or the 80mph+ speeders, or the double-parkers, or the overtakin-in-to-corners-superstars, or the bus-drivers who pull out without looking or the guy who went straight over the mini-roundabout in front of me this morning, or the girl who had the front to look annoyed at him while driving with her mobile clamped to her ear towards both of us?

I am just joe public, but it seems to me the fount of many of the problems on our roads is the total absence of the people who are employed to keep the law of the land... probably filling out forms to get the wing-mirrors fixed on their plod-mobiles in quadruplicate for some desk-jockey somewhere deep in whitehall... allegedly 
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Originally posted by timeintheboat

Are any forumites thinking of doing any of the orgainsed bike events this year?

 
I am meant to be doing a MTb Enduro event in the FOD in septem ber however it clashes with the battle of the classes so i may have to can it.  Not sure i am up to a 100mile road bike event again yet.  I managed 42miles on Saturday and felt it It made the 10 miles i did the next day hard work.  Staying off a road bike for 6 months has taken its toll on me.  Trying to build myself back up.

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Originally posted by yellowwelly

Originally posted by bustinben

Originally posted by yellowwelly

Originally posted by Rupert

Surely they would just ride uninsured, same as loads of car drivers?

I'm sure they would, but at least then they could be prosecuted and given community service... maybe washing the buses for the bus w**kers.

Why would you punish a cyclist without insurance more harshly than a car driver without insurance?



In an ideal world I wouldn't.  But driving without insurance is usually met with a 6 point penalty and a hefty fine.  As cyclists don't have a points based licence, and are obviously too poor to drive a motorcar, it seems ludicrous to penalise them financially and attempt to 'ban' them riding again.

Far better that they performed some civic service... maybe like clearing up dog sh*t in the park.


LOL  Too poor to drive a motorcar...  I guess that means everyone on this board is too poor to drive a speedboat too.
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Surely GPS enabled Boris Bikes should be the only road legal ones...  

At least that way the Government dept that is Google (they don't pay corp tax, therefore must be public service) can  plot your journey on google earth to see if you were cycling on the pavement/through a red light.

Amazon could fulfil issuing of fines.  They're another government department that has taken over from the 'The Library' - a rarity of local governance and town trusts in former days.

And a final thought- Speed Awareness Workshops and Cycling Proficiency Tests could be run from a Starbucks.  (Starbucks now the non-corp tax paying government department that provides the country with its required level of calcium and lactose, an inevitability after Maggie stole our milk...)
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as I say, roadies will (likely) have insurance. I'd have thought MTBers with decent bikes would too. They won't have specifically bought 3rd party, it'll just have been thrown in as part of a package- premiums for 3rd paty insurance for cyclists are really, really low. Given that insurance premiums are a function of risk (liklihood of an accident occuring) and severity (how much the payout is likely to be), with an added "we've got a racket going as you have to have it" for car inusrance premium on top of that, the low cost of 3rd party insurance for cyclists should give you an indication of how dangerous to others your average cyclist actually is, rather than your perception.
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Originally posted by alstorer

indication of how dangerous to others your average cyclist actually is, rather than your perception.


Not to mention how likely said cyclist is to disappear over the horizon in the knowledge he's virtually impossible to identify unless he sticks around...
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Originally posted by yellowwelly

the first bit of my new bike has arrived...

As this is now a cycling forum......
 
What model is that saddle? I've got a Charge saddle on my MTB, its getting a bit tired now but is by far the best I've had. Beats the Fizik number that was fitted as standard and is considerably cheaper
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