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    Posted: 22 May 13 at 12:09pm
Originally posted by iGRF

Originally posted by pondmonkey

just a side thought... whatever happened to the Peaky's NS14 hull?


What's this about, not on the radar, what's an NS14, what's it got to do with an Icon and yes had I been a bit flusher with the readies, an Icon with a kite would be perfect that Mike Lyons Spinnakerphobia has a lot to answer for.

search this forum for Toby's NS14 thread... or save yourself the time and call Mike, I'm sure Toby and he used the NS14 hull for extensive research into the Icon.  It's not the same as an Icon, but the lineage is clear to see, and as you're butchering it anyway, why pay the premium for the 'finished hull' of an Ikon, when the prototype (a full finished boat in its own right) could be sitting there, begging for a bit of cillit bang and some forum vapour.
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Isn't there a version with an assy already? MG14?? And doesn't it have a daggerboard? Mind, Mike's one might have been converted when used as the test bed.
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in fairness I'm not sure about the DB... but it seemed a sweet looking two man hull from the photos I saw, much like the Icon... there could be worse platforms to start with!
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Can't find it, searched with NS14 all that came up were references here, did it have a centre board or dagger?

No MG14 either.
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Originally posted by tick

Nice Fireball, cheap, know what I mean.....in the nettles for a few years but all there. £50 ish.....There are loads of them about. Presumably you are not looking for wood. Old grp's or compos are no good. Late Winders are nice but expensive, too expensive to cut about. Late ones always have these little adjustable posts for jib sheeting.....complicated.  I always thought that a Fireball could carry a bigger symetric kite with a longer pole. In fact I have an old kite somewhere. I have crewed them and they feel very stable for a narrow boat.

How about using a Tasar hull? Very light and stiff. You would need a different mast though if you wanted to hang traps and kite off it. I have one of those but I am doing it up for sale this year. 

The other thing is a Scorpion, I can get one of those cheap. Longish and thin. I believe they sail off 1016 and have a centreboard.
They have  a centreboard, but the PN is 1044 this year.
Sticking a trapeze on a 400 has some appeal.
But if big sails are the name of the game, what's not to like about twin wires?
 
Depends where and how you want to race.
 
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Found this, daggerboard referred to as a centreboard incorrectly imv.

Nice shaped boat, just the ticket if it had a retracting plate.
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What about getting some smaller sails for the Alto made? Or is that too simple an idea? You may even find that a mainsail from another boat will fit.
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pretty sure there was a conversion done to centreboard.  Toby sailed it at Rock, so centreboard would have been useful given the tide states.... speak with Mike for clarity.
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Originally posted by iGRF

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Refering to the RS500... what do you mean by 'it's history', just out of interest?


Lets just say it took a lot of 'prototypes' to get right and then there were doubts that it was, and I owned one for a couple of years, I didn't know as much back then as I do now and interesting that I've had a PM I can't discuss from an enthusiastic 500 owner who claims to have unlocked the mystery but wants to win this year so I'm forbidden from disclosing the secret until the end of the season once the Trophy cabinet is full.

It is also pretty overpowered from memory when I had my tall heavier crew so not necessarily going to do it for us.

I've got one too. Glad I'm not the only person whose had issues with it. One of the reasons we're selling ours is because we still haven't cracked the bloody thing and don't have time to keep fannying about with it. I'm dieing to know what this guy said to you, it'll be interesting to find out at the end of the season.  Pinch
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a little trip down memory lane for the RS500 sailors out there....
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