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    Posted: 22 May 13 at 10:31am
Originally posted by pondmonkey

just a side thought... whatever happened to the Peaky's NS14 hull?


What's this about, not on the radar, what's an NS14, what's it got to do with an Icon and yes had I been a bit flusher with the readies, an Icon with a kite would be perfect that Mike Lyons Spinnakerphobia has a lot to answer for.

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I'd worry about weight carrying capacity on a Contender hull...

> foreman 4g cherub hull here, waiting for a false floor and assy conversion.

I wouldn't do that!
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contender with asymmetric kite- naturally you're taking it further with a crew and jib.



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Nice Fireball, cheap, know what I mean.....in the nettles for a few years but all there. £50 ish.....There are loads of them about. Presumably you are not looking for wood. Old grp's or compos are no good. Late Winders are nice but expensive, too expensive to cut about. Late ones always have these little adjustable posts for jib sheeting.....complicated.  I always thought that a Fireball could carry a bigger symetric kite with a longer pole. In fact I have an old kite somewhere. I have crewed them and they feel very stable for a narrow boat.

How about using a Tasar hull? Very light and stiff. You would need a different mast though if you wanted to hang traps and kite off it. I have one of those but I am doing it up for sale this year. 

The other thing is a Scorpion, I can get one of those cheap. Longish and thin. I believe they sail off 1016 and have a centreboard.
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Originally posted by JimC

I'd worry about weight carrying capacity on a Contender hull...

> foreman 4g cherub hull here, waiting for a false floor and assy conversion.

I wouldn't do that!


I think the contender would carry the weight pretty well.  As for the cherub, I don't want to do it either, which is why it's been waiting so long.  It's that or trash the hull....
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Scorpion.. Now there's a blast from the past. Hythe was a big Scorpion club back in the day, held Nationals and everything they were probably one of the first casualties of the inital Assym storm I remember a couple of key guys buying Iso's then quickly losing interest but the damage was done, folk rarely go back.

Interesting anecdote, I once spent an afternoon and evening sanding an up turned Scorpion trying to double concave the hull, no idea if it ever worked for the guy but it seemed like a good idea at the time since double con caves were all the rage on sailboards, encouraging early planing as per flying boat floats helped release with the concaves.

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Originally posted by winging it

  It's that or trash the hull.... 

you can't trash it... just donate it to someone who wants it.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Neptune Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 May 13 at 11:15am
I reckon a contender would be pretty rubbish as a single string two man boat.  The cockpit floor is surely too high to make it comfortable for the helm, muct be even shallower than an laser 2 or 3000 thingy
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Originally posted by pondmonkey

Originally posted by winging it

  It's that or trash the hull.... 

you can't trash it... just donate it to someone who wants it.


there were only 2 foreman 4gs ever made.  There's a reason for that.

The contender cockpit is about the same as the 3000/laser 2 cockpit.  I remember sailing a laser 2 at Oxford that had been fitted with a bolted on pole etc, it was being trialled by laser as the prototype for the 3000.  If grimpf is doing something similar good luck to him.  Has to be more sensible than the doomed V twin.

Of course, single wire centreboard double hander.....there's always the Vago.

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i guess he only has little legs!

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