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Rossiter Pintail Mortagne sur Gironde, near Bordeaux |
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RS400atC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 04 Dec 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3011 |
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Olympic level is always going to cost, but the boat probably pales compared to the other campaign costs. I thought most 'old' classes were properly controlled, with many boats getting measured and weighed at big events? Merlins are very organised with check weighing, the min weight includes the board and some of the string, they have a 3 point scale which takes the trolley wheels and bow, while the boom and mainsheet etc are lifted by helpers. Then the boat is lifted and the scales weigh the trolley to deduct that. A few minutes per boat and accurate enough to deter chancers. Of course when built, the boat would have been measured and the weight of its correctors recorded, and these should not be reduced without a formal re-weighing and ammended cert. I thought all serious non-smods were like that! |
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E.J. ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 19 Feb 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 184 |
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The Contender is like that. Bare hull Measured at birth and then at any international events thereafter; with the Cert changed only by a recognised measurer. All the accessories go through the same process. Not too difficult to get them all on weight with such a generous minimum!
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Firefly similar to that, too, and the British Moth.
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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Thanks Mark - he sounds like a great fellow. I somehow feel that twitface and blogging has become a rather pale alternative to colourful, inspiring characters of real life. |
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Paramedic ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 27 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 929 |
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I think you've taken that comment slightly out of context ;) The point was that as people learn more about sailing and how/why boats work they are likely to change class to one that offers better racing/stiffer hull/better performance to match changing aspirations. I don't see any of the rotomould boats fitting the requirements of the enthusiastic racer with the obvious exception of the Feva for juniors. |
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pondmonkey ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2202 |
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Sounds about right to me - although as a completely versatile boat (and not bad in shandycapping) the vago one up doesn't look too bad.
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Paramedic ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 27 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 929 |
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We had one on demo when they first came out and I thought they had huge potential. In the 4 years that have passed I think ive seen two racing and unfortunately this was at different events years apart! |
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2547 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1151 |
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If boats are identical apart from one being 10kgs lighter I know which one I want ... seems a simple case of check what you are buying.
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pondmonkey ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2202 |
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I saw a couple being raced down in South Cerney- to be honest, they changed my prejudice against 'their ilk'. A bit like a grown up Feva, and there's nothing wrong with a Feva - great little boat! I also saw one at a few SJ events- singlehanded, kited and not capsizing everywhere. Plenty of performance... I'd almost be tempted myself
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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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Have you tried trapezing a Vago?
We had one for a week's demo at WSC. By the second weekend, nobody wanted to sail it any more. The last to try were a pair of guys who regularly trapezed in club racing but declared it was hopeless on the Vago. Curious to try the boat, we found this to be an exaggeration, but my crew did indeed fall over while on the wire (onto me!). Problems all to do with the deep cockpit and slippery sides from what I recall. Edit: I'd always assumed that consistency of weight would be a strength of rotomoulds, but I read recently that even with them variations could be large. I can't imagine how, given that it is only a question of weighing out a quantity of plastic beads to chuck into the mould...
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