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    Posted: 22 Apr 13 at 12:33pm
Come to think of it, we have just got examples of both ends of the Streaker weight range at WSC (owned by a couple, who are still talking so far as I know since 'he' bought the lighter one).

No need to weigh them - the 38kg one rolls about in light wind after it comes off its trolley, the other sits there like a raft even in in half a gale!  Lighter hulls do pay a stability penalty.
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Originally posted by JimC

I suspect the biggest advantage of not weighing the boats in an SMOD class is that no-one gets pysched out by boat weights...

But once in the know about such matters, they will always wonder and worry...
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I don't think I ever realised the value of the work that goes into the Finn class until I read this thread, the builders and measurers produce a very consistant result which upto this point I thought all other classes enjoyed. There really should be a little more quality control through out the various classes, especially where a one design is being marketed or else it isn't one.
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Originally posted by Thunder Road

I don't think I ever realised the value of the work

Another POV would be that the Finn class are so anal about this stuff that they probably all have haemorrhoids... A bad case of Olympicitis that the rest of us are happy to avoid...
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Originally posted by Medway Maniac


  Lighter hulls do pay a stability penalty.

And I suppose that varies depending on where the extra weight is.

The 2 2ks that I saw weighed were hung from the same points, the heavier one hung more nose down than the lighter one.

It probably doesn't pay psychologically to get too hung up on weights...but when folk fit tapered sheets, bearing blocks, 400 grit (or whatever they use) the hull, lube up the shute, quibble about 10 py points, all of which make a few seconds difference......then an extra 10 kgs is quite a biggy.
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I'd agree with TR and disagree with Jim C. The pleasure of a Finn is that the rules are so well controlled that most owners, who are not of course Olympians, can enjoy really close competion in a variety of ages of boats knowing they are as close in terms of weights and balance as any class in the world. Even better they get a great mag telling what is happening, but really never have to get involved in class politics. In my view the Finn Class should be a model for all ......... That should extract a few more posts I'll bet .... Wink
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Surely the Finns have the best of all worlds - they can bimble to their heart's content, safe in the knowledge that important stuff like huge variations in hull weight is all being taken care of centrally.
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Thanks to Chris's work at ovi's phantoms are pretty damn good, like the latter vandercraft ones. Always difficult when people can fit out a hull themselves, how can you control that. Some people will find theirs will be over, some under. You ain't going to please everyone.
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Originally posted by Thunder Road

I don't think I ever realised the value of the work that goes into the Finn class until I read this thread, the builders and measurers produce a very consistant result which upto this point I thought all other classes enjoyed. There really should be a little more quality control through out the various classes, especially where a one design is being marketed or else it isn't one.

Is it worth twenty grand though?  That is, after all what we're talking about- new boat prices indexed with the depreciation on that investment.    
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Originally posted by pondmonkey

Originally posted by Thunder Road

I don't think I ever realised the value of the work that goes into the Finn class until I read this thread, the builders and measurers produce a very consistant result which upto this point I thought all other classes enjoyed. There really should be a little more quality control through out the various classes, especially where a one design is being marketed or else it isn't one.

Is it worth twenty grand though?  That is, after all what we're talking about- new boat prices indexed with the depreciation on that investment.    


A new Finn is 20K????? Shocked
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