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Neptune 
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 Topic: Published Hull WeightsPosted: 15 Apr 13 at 9:12pm |
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Musto's have published weights with and without fittings
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L123456
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Posted: 15 Apr 13 at 9:31pm |
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I was just correcting your statement that the 200 main jammer was 2kgs with referenced and linked facts ... mate ...
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Medway Maniac
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Posted: 15 Apr 13 at 10:02pm |
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I'd love to know the results of the 2k weighing session - there is so much mythology that has built up over the years about the early boats being lighter.
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transient
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Posted: 15 Apr 13 at 10:56pm |
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I don't know of any 2000 myths. I sailed one a few times though, never again, too heavy on the beach for my liking.
As for the weighing session, I'll dig the facts out and report back. Edited by transient - 15 Apr 13 at 10:58pm |
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carshalton fc
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Posted: 15 Apr 13 at 11:42pm |
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I have had experience first hand having my parents sail a 2000 and there is a big difference so much so that one couple sold their new boat and bought an old one then won the islands and nationals in the same year. You may say it is only a 2000 and not a racing machine but who wants to go out there knowing that their boat side by side is slower before they have got off the beach.
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Paramedic
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Posted: 16 Apr 13 at 8:28am |
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I guess it depends how much overweight the boat is, I know for a fact that a number of very successful Merlins have been around 10 kilos over back in the days of wooden boats.
Personally I think hull weight is a mind thing rather than a race wining/losing issue, provided of course you're talking about reasonable limits! I wouldn't worry about being around 10% over. |
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RS400atC
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Posted: 16 Apr 13 at 8:38am |
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I think wooden Merlins are a special case, as the wider ones were more powerful but hard to build down to weight. A few kilos might not hurt much, but in many classes small differences matter. There are SMOD sailors who weigh hulls and reject the heavy ones.
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JimC
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Posted: 16 Apr 13 at 8:40am |
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10 kilos sounds a hell of a lot. It wasn't unusual for Cherubs to be 5 or 10lbs over in the days of wood boats though, especially before the best building techniques were worked out in the 80s. The min weight was certainly regarded as somewhat aspirational raher than essential.
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I luv Wight
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Posted: 16 Apr 13 at 9:09am |
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For an IC breakdown is :
Hull 22.0 Fittings/string 6.3 Carriage 4.0 Daggerboard 1.4 Rudder/Cassette/Tiller 1.2 Tiller extension 0.3 Mast (rigged) 5.0 Boom 1.3 Sliding Seat 8.5 TOTAL 50.0 (= minimum weight as the rule ) Plus sails 4.2 = all up weight 54.2kg |
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transient
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Posted: 16 Apr 13 at 9:11am |
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Doing well in races depends on getting many things right in my view. Some things are small, some are large......Hull weight variation is one of those things. If my dinghy were 10 Kgs over I would sell the boat.
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