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transient ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 21 Aug 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 715 |
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the 200 88-91 figure is for a fitted (with CB) hull only.
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L123456 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 30 Apr 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 500 |
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Wow ... so a bit more than "fittings" then ... what does it get up to when you add the rig? I guess this is where the one-design & dev class owner gets a better deal, when you have a certificate you know exactly what you are getting and how much the bits weigh. When you buy a SMOD you get what the marketing blub tells you which may not be what you expect as you have found out ... buyer beware I guess ... do your homework before you buy ...
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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It's pretty standard to weigh things that have stuff added to them later and publish the bare hull weight, we do it in sailboards. Fins and foils can weigh differing amounts, as can footstraps. So with all the garbage bits that get added to dinghies I can quite believe they weigh up to 12 kgs, that swivel thing that holds the main sheet is a good couple of kilos, tiller and rudder combos can weigh a couple of kilos difference depending who makes them, as I bet can the blocks.
So it's OK, what's not OK is that the damn things weigh more than thirty two kilos in the first place. If they were airline baggage they would be banned under health and safety terms. No dinghy should be permitted to weigh 50 kgs all up imv. Edited by iGRF - 15 Apr 13 at 4:05pm |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Don't reckon I'd go quite as far as that... Boat weights are notoriously difficult to compare because there are so many different configurations you can measure in them. Very few classes measure all up weight, and even where you have vaguely comparable stripped weights there may be widely varying minimum weights for other things like foils, spars and so on, and then centreboard boats normally include the centreboard in measured weight, daggerboard boats normally exclude it, the list goes on... |
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L123456 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 30 Apr 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 500 |
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Dunno what kit you are buying but it is about 400g. Before SMODs come along we all had an understanding of what "hull weight" was and it was a hull with fittings and control lines weighed dry, it was a ready to sail hull ... the "marketing men" have twisted this ...
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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It was a bit of man kit L19244 nothing you'd have any experience of mate...
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Chris 249 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2041 |
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You can have a SMOD and still measure the weight - Tasars have a hull + fittings (ie no spars, sheets or foils) of 68kg, which was IIRC the average of the fleet when the rule was created. My boat is a 1977 model that has been allowed to put on weight but is still carrying about 2.5kg of lead.
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2547 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1151 |
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The Tasar was well ahead of its time. What other Smods have weight rules and publish their weights? Edited by 2547 - 15 Apr 13 at 8:13pm |
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Paramedic ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 27 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 929 |
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when we bought laser 2000s to add to the training fleet we were told that they were significantly lighter than the wayfarers we also use.
They are not. Again the published weight was bare hull only. I doubt that the wayfarers are even remotely down to weight but I still thought it was a bit "naughty". |
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B14 class rules (2010 edition) specifies hull weight, and specifies that it includes permanently attached fittings. Rules are currently being revised to make weighing simpler (including wings, for a start) Edit: of course, B14s share a fair bit else with Tasars... Edited by alstorer - 15 Apr 13 at 9:25pm |
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