3000 CLASS PY

Originally posted by dontdocalm! There is only a 3000 class now, although the RYA don't seem to have caught up,

To the best of my knowledge the RYA receive no returns for a combined 3000 class but do receive returns for both Laser 3000s and V3000s.

Originally posted by dontdocalm! Originally posted by JimC To the best of my knowledge the RYA receive no returns for a combined 3000 class but do receive returns for both Laser 3000s and V3000s. That's intriguing. I know it was the case, and may still be, that there wasn't a facility in the results software to enter anything other than a "Laser 3000", disguising which boat, L or V, was used (clear only from the sail number)

Sounds like the PY is for the Laser 3000 and the V3000 is in the abyss of not enough returned races?

Im in the process of getting the 3000 site back up and running, my Jury service has now ended and I have a little more time to get it sorted.
As far as im aware the RYA only accepts 3000 returns, be it Laser or Vandercraft.

I believe Tony Hunt at Willsonian has not been racing his Vandercraft boat but his Laser boat and they regularly make returns to the RYA.

Its likely that as the class is an aging one (in boat terms) that the PY will increase slowly as the number of boats racing declines and the condition of those still racing declines also.

I have'nt seen the returns from the RYA to say definitively either way.

Hopefully the website will be back soon, if not a new one will be built.

We are still here, dont forget us :-)

Dan

Maybe the Laser 2 suits club race courses better with a trad kite? Sail area is pretty similar, too.

Originally posted by dontdocalm! Originally posted by JimC To the best of my knowledge the RYA receive no returns for a combined 3000 class but do receive returns for both Laser 3000s and V3000s. That's intriguing. I know it was the case, and may still be, that there wasn't a facility in the results software to enter anything other than a "Laser 3000", disguising which boat, L or V, was used (clear only from the sail number)

I don't know what racing software you use, but sailwave allows you to enter what ever you want, and adjust the py as you see fit. If someone races a v3000 then their class is entered as v3000 in sailwave. If they enter a Laser 3000 then that is entered into sailwave. When you upload to PYS then the classes are named as per sailwave, so if your club chooses to score v3000s off of 1035 and Laser 3000s off of 1040 then they will go in as separate lines and will remain seperate when analysed by the RYA. PYS will also provide you with a club recommended number for each.

I would suggest that there is probably some confusion amongst clubs sailing this class where some will race both off of one number while others split them, I also suspect that numbers racing may fall below the threshold to go onto the 2013 PY numbers.