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    Posted: 30 Jan 13 at 11:47am
Actually I personally think someone who is consistent across a range of conditions (fast in 5 and 25 knots) should win. Believe me there was plenty of pressure in the Olympics before the medal race and we still saw match racing finishes.

However I do understand the need for the medal race format we had at last years games, so maybe we have got it just about right...

Just look how consistent even the best 49er sailors are, a winner takes it all race does not seem right to me but it is OMVHO...
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However I do understand the need for the medal race format we had at last years games, so maybe we have got it just about right...
 
Remind me again why we "need" that?
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Sadly money talks and by having a medal race it was easier to "sell" to the public. I do not know how much the medal races increased the number of viewers or whether ticket sells from the Nothe generated a significant income but this seems to be the way things are going....
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You can't say the Best Man won the Finns at Weymouth, Ben love him as we all do was well off form and the outcome and behind the scene rumours were that at best he was lucky and worse the victory contrived with a bit of team (from a friend) sailing gave it to him.
You could also argue precisely because the format is as it is he knew he didn't necessarily have to try too hard early on whereas the Dane went hard for it in every race.

So the format doesn't really work for either us or the ill informed public who had watched that Dane wind hands down earlier and it was noted, the lack of film evidence of the front end in the closing stages of the medal race with all the focus being at the back, anyway it is what it is these days, personally I don't think it serves sailing at all despite the fact we came out with a medal and some mejia fest.
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Originally posted by Jon Emmett

Sadly money talks and by having a medal race it was easier to "sell" to the public. I do not know how much the medal races increased the number of viewers or whether ticket sells from the Nothe generated a significant income but this seems to be the way things are going....
I don't see how this has anything to do with needing a medal race. The final day of any competition will have the highest ticket sales because the winner is confirmed. The fact that half the fleet were left ashore becuase they didnt qualify doesnt make the medal race any more or less important. The fact that they were ashore did however allow Ben (sorry, Sir Ben) to match race the Dane out of the running because he knew whatever happened he could only score 20 points, in the full fleet he would have had to beat the other boats still which would have made it all much harder for him.
 
Anyway, medal races are stupid, especially when they are deliberately sailed on a bit of water that is notoriously flukey and they are weighted so that they count more than the races sailed on the more fair courses.
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Originally posted by JimC

I dunno, I've never understood that the 'oi polloi have any trouble in understanding why the football league winners don't necessarilly win the last match of the season or can have the title sewn up before they get there...
People seem to cope with F1 where the championship can be won (even with the score change to 25 for a win) before the final race.
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Stage 1 - 9 races, but the arrows say its all over by race 8. Eh?? As I first read it, they had nicely introduced the 'badminton problem'.  ??
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They appear to be scoring 0 for a win in the Laser and Laser Radial.
Anyone care to explain?
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The Radials/Lasers are using a new experimental scoring system.
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