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    Posted: 14 Jan 13 at 9:24am
Thanks to QM as per everyone else.  Lovely sail, great event.  Well done to all the winners.
However, I have a small racing niggle, which I want to share/ask advice on.
 
As we set the kite at the east end of the lake for the reach towards the clubhouse, a 29er popped up to windwards of us, and hoisted.  They didn't just clip us, they removed the spinney pole from its spiro launcher.  We had to bear away hard to avoid a big smack with them.
 
Windward boat, right?  We caught back up all the way down the reach (great angle - exciting in the gusts), hailing them clearly, before over hauling them on the fetch along the bund.  there was a lot of strategic ignoring of the old gits in the museum piece behind / overtaking / in front of them.
 
We actually did ultimately hail protest, but then lost them in the melee... and of course forgot the sail number.......our bad.
 
We certainly didn't go looking for aggressive close boat sailing - that isn't the point of the BM. 
 
Along with most crews, we ducked loads of trransoms that we could have hailed on.  But where should the land lie, and are we comfortable that these yoof sailors were quite happy to break the rules cos they thought they would get away with it?...which of course they now have.
 
Protesting at the BM would not be a popular thing, I'm guessing.  Advice please.  Am I just old and jaded...!!
 
 
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Originally posted by Charlie 8835

  Advice please.  Am I just old and jaded...!!

Charlie


What was it you were littering up the water with, getting in the way of our nations fine youth in their fast modern crafts?

What's a spiro launcher anyway, it should probably be obsolete, who's it made by, Stannah?

Aren't there different rules for wood botherers and sailors of modern craft?

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...our bad?


And what are old american speakers doing on our fine english reservoirs anyway?

Edited by iGRF - 14 Jan 13 at 10:07am
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Sorry GRF.  attempting not to look / sound old and past it.  Ferrari and toupe now on order......!
 
A twin spiro launcher pulley is the pulley that attaches the pole to the mast.  It is Sooooooo expensive that even normal 505 crews are trying to find different systems and pulleys.
 
About GBP350 for 1 moulding and 2 small heavy duty rollers.....rivets and Duralac cost extra..!!
 
 
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BTW - no wood bothering here..  All newer 505's have loads of carbon.
It's how we warrant the cost difference with the Alto...!!
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You haven't got one of those lovely new Parker five ohs have you? They look proper kewell..
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sadly I think protest is the only official answer these days, even if it's a PITA for all the other competitors who need to wait around for it.

When God was a lad we would have been on the end of a sharp talking too, or worse, someone would have grassed us up to our parents who (rightly) would have been shame faced by such blatant arrogance, inconsideration and lack of courtesy from their offspring, irrespective of the racing rules situation..... doubt that's the case now, the RYA Regional Squad sports psycho-babblist would pat them on the back for not losing their cool with the situation and staying 'in the zone'.

I guess if you want to follow it now, then Hubert and Hermione would best served with a tweet of flame and good bit of internet witch hunting (seems to work for every other SJ series at some point)... if you could remember their sail number of course, otherwise let the rabble go through the list and pin it on the nearest 29er to your finish position.
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Whilst I don't exactly operate the Lairier of my craft with clinical precision, I think that these events attract a fairly mixed bag of abilities and age groups. 340 boats is a thick soup in anyone's money.
Kids aren't always the best at being self aware, suspect that there isn't that much intentional rule dodging, just that kids just do what they always do and maybe don't take in the stuff that's happening beyond what they'd usually be thinking about in a one design squad / training / champs environment .
That said, a bit like in cars, it's not the "young, dumb and full of come (sp?)" brigade that are the biggest menace, it's the coffin dodgers.
Closest moment to disaster on sat for us was an old boy for whom steering a straight course ddw in a f4 slumped in the bottom his go slow was clearly taking up all of his effort, such that it was clear that he would not be honouring his obligation as give way boat on port for anything, despite clear and concise (and polite) hails from about 20 seconds before impact.
As with driving, Just gotta see them coming as best one can and give a wide, wide berth.
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I just wanted to say a big thanks to everyone for an amazing day on Saturday.  I didn't have the confidence to sail the event this year, but my day as one of the launch/recovery volunteers was very satisfying. Knackering mind you, but satisfying. ;-)

 

I’ve never in all my life hauled so many heavy things up and down a concrete slope. 

 

The majority of crews were friendly and helpful, actually listened to what we were asking them to do, and generally got into the spirit of the whole thing.  I’d like to give a special thanks to the folks who helped us with their launching trollies rather than just dumping them on the shore teams.  After you have carried 30+ trollies up a steep, slippery slope, you start to feel it, so the crews who took their own were legends.

 

The non-sailor family members were a friendly bunch too, with some of them even becoming (only slightly pressganged) helpers in their own right. 

 

I think the system for getting people out of the carpark with boats hitched up was excellent as well, and once again, a big thanks to all the volunteers who stuck around until the end with me and dragged all the road trailers up to the backs of cars.

 

What little I did get to see of the race in my lunch break was pretty amazing to watch.  Certainly made me want to practice enough in my little laser that I can sail it next year.

 

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Yes, thank you to QMSC for an exciting day out.

And especially to all the volunteers incl the guy and girl who walked my boat for around thirty yards in the pick-up/attachment line just so others could line up quicker behind.... impressive organisation and logistics.

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Originally posted by Timmus

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Recognize any of these sail numbers???
Or you could check here for further details.
http://events.sailracer.org/eventsites/entries-multi.asp?eventid=51516

When the fotoboat pics are out you may recognise them and then you can name and shame
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