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    Posted: 14 Sep 12 at 7:26pm
when we bought new Fireflies at uni I seem to remember the hull being skewed enough that for a straight mast, one shroud was a hole lower than the other. The same side on all six- it was a mould issue.
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There is actually a scientific explanation that should effect everyone apart from those in tropical latitudes, although the effect is reversed in the southern hemisphere.
It all starts due to the nature of how wind and gusts are formed. As I presume you all know, wind blows roughly along isobars, however due to the friction caused by land and sea the wind is slowed down and therefore is altered to blow a slightly more direct rout between the high pressure and low pressure. This results in the wind blowing 15 degrees off the isobaratic/gradient wind over the sea, and due to larger friction, 30 degrees different over land.
A large number of gusts are where for some reason the stronger higher altitude wind has found it's way down to ground level, therefore will be from a slightly different direction that will favor one tack more than the other. This especially applies to micro gusts (lasting less than a second and often found about the height of the top of the mast). This means that on one tack you will effectively be given tiny lifts every now and then that will give you slightly more favorable winds without you especially being aware of it.
hope I explained this well enough for you to understand
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Post Options Post Options   Quote robin34024 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Dec 12 at 6:28pm
Check your slot gasket; I had a friend who had a loose slot gasket, and on starboard, the water pressure held it on, but on port, it dragged, making the boat feel sluggish.
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Check and measure the boat as best you can. There may be a small difference but it is more likely to be that you feel better sailing on one tack than on the other.

I always feel like I struggle on starboard and am much faster on port. Then I look round me at what other boats are doing and realise that actually i am doing just fine and then concentrate on what I should be doing than my perception that there is a problem.

As others have said though definitely worth checking the board and rudder alignment out and measure from the mast head to the transom corners as well as the over all rake. It is unlikely to be the boat though. The only real Blaze 'issue' that I am aware of is the join of the hull/deck in at the front of centreboard case which has a tandancy to separate on the early Mk 2 hulls (654 and upwards).
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I am right handed and convinced my vortex is better on starboard tack than port. There seems to be weather helm on port whereas on starboard the boat feels more "neutral". I have checked the lean of the mast and that shrouds and lowers are all the same tension. All measurements point to all being equal .
The only explanation I can find as others are saying is that it is just the way the boat feels to me due to being right handed !
The only check I haven't done is to put all the foils in, turn the boat upside down and somehow check that all is in line; quite what I'd do if I found one of the boards to be out is another matter of course .....
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ohFFsake Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jan 13 at 1:27am
I was having this trouble in a recent race and when I analysed it afterwards with my crew we came up with a slightly different reason.
 
What if the wind direction is slightly different further up the mast? Let's say the wind is blowing from true north at deck level, and this is what you sail to as per your tell tails. But if you go up 20 feet and the wind there is blowing at (say) 010 degrees then assuming there is a bit of twist in your sails you will have a rig that is spot on whilst on starboard tack, but on port the top of the sails won't be driving at all as they will be nearly backed.
 
Your upper leach tell tails don't help that much here - on the bad tack they will flow really freely anyway as the sail is nearly head to wind. On the "good" tack the top tell tail might stall when the sail is overtrimmed but if you are anything like me you don't tend to look at them as much when the boat feels like it's going well - it's when it isn't you start fiddling with stuff!
 
We noticed this as we spotted a clear pattern of shifts in the gusts which usually implies that the wind direction higher up is different to that at the water level - only in the gusts does this true wind reach down to you, whereas in the lulls obstructions at ground level deflect it.
 
If the problem persists, or continues in stronger winds then simplest way forwards might be to swap boats with someone else?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sargesail Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jan 13 at 7:20am
It's called wind sheer - particularly apparent in cold stable air.  It is unusual to need/be able to tri,m differently for it in dinghies, but in the j24 winter series we would set differenent genoa car positions and mainsheet/track to do different twist on the two tacks.
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I used to have a mirror dinghy that was way faster than everyone else on port but rubbish on starboard.  Eventually found a fault in the plywood core which caused it to twist when under pressure.  Spent a lot of time trying to make a board that would twist correctly on both tacks but never achieved it !
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