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    Posted: 24 Oct 12 at 6:35am
The Ronstan shroud adjuster has a pin in the top and the channel is restricted at the top so that with the top pin in the shroud cant fall out. This is handy when changing things on the water so you dont lose the shroud but I suspect that if the fast pin broke the load would be so much that the bent bit of metal at the top of the adjuster would unbend and you would lose the rig.
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Originally posted by Noah

Originally posted by pondmonkey

I've had then ping out with kite sheets... but never bend out of shape.

Fast pins aren't fast without tape!
Put them in from the inside then the ring is protected from kite sheet snagging. 

I also use a standard pin in the topmost position so the rig is always secure and changing up is simply a matter of pulling the pin (tied on, of course!)


That only works with the 'fireball' slot system. If you have a simple swaged eye or similar on the shroud and the pin fails, (fast or otherwise) the mast falls down.
Don't know why more classes don't use the Fireball system - its simple, easy to use and safe as mast can't fall down.
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Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by Oatsandbeans

... you couldn't get a thicker pin through the hole in the shroud adjuster.

Well yes, you do have to go up a size as well on those too:-)


Or buy a drill.
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Originally posted by Noah

Originally posted by pondmonkey

I've had then ping out with kite sheets... but never bend out of shape.

Fast pins aren't fast without tape!
Put them in from the inside then the ring is protected from kite sheet snagging. 

I also use a standard pin in the topmost position so the rig is always secure and changing up is simply a matter of pulling the pin (tied on, of course!)
 
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Originally posted by pondmonkey

I've had then ping out with kite sheets... but never bend out of shape.

Fast pins aren't fast without tape!
Put them in from the inside then the ring is protected from kite sheet snagging. 

I also use a standard pin in the topmost position so the rig is always secure and changing up is simply a matter of pulling the pin (tied on, of course!)
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I know someone who nearly lost the whole of their rig over the side trying to adjust them on the water. I personally wouldn't bother on the water but they can be advantageous on shore
Everything I say is my opinion, honest
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I've had then ping out with kite sheets... but never bend out of shape.

Fast pins aren't fast without tape!
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Originally posted by Oatsandbeans

... you couldn't get a thicker pin through the hole in the shroud adjuster.

Well yes, you do have to go up a size as well on those too:-)
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Originally posted by Neptune

given all the other bits of rigging a boat up; Do fast pins really save much time?  some of the split rings designs can be removed really quickly and it doesn't really take more than 20 seconds to change the position


If you want to change mast rake on the water between races a fast pin is much easier and less risky. We would use fine cord to tie ours to the chain plate so we couldn't lose them.  Never had one break or fail.
the same, but different...

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Thanks for all the info. I quite like the fast pins, dropping one of those little circular wire things in the sand at 10 minutes to go stresses me out (especially with my poor eyesight) so I'll probably keep using them.
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